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« on: September 05, 2011, 07:57:10 pm »

Playing Europe in Ruins a modification for Company of Heroes which enables persistency.


Have Vet 3 and 2 Squads, which, wanting to let survive for the next game because of the idea of persistency, retreat off the field at 3 4 or occasionally 5 men depending on the situation.


Get called a Vet whore for preserving my vet in a persistency mod.



Wut.
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« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2011, 08:05:27 pm »

Just because its a persistency mod doesn't make you immune to being called a vet whore.
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« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2011, 08:06:15 pm »

You just gained + 5 being called a Vet Whore XP!
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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2011, 08:06:44 pm »

Do the creep!

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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2011, 08:28:26 pm »

lol you let the trolls get to you
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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2011, 08:31:04 pm »

Did you lose the game?
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« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2011, 08:32:26 pm »

I'm not claiming to know the circumstances, but it's fair to feel frustration when your ally is retreating units that could still be fighting, and would happily throw a game if it preserved his vet. I mean it's a persistancy mod, but the aim is to win, is it not?!
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« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2011, 08:42:19 pm »

I'm not claiming to know the circumstances, but it's fair to feel frustration when your ally is retreating units that could still be fighting, and would happily throw a game if it preserved his vet. I mean it's a persistancy mod, but the aim is to win, is it not?!


That is true, and I myself am willing to admit I've done this a couple of times, but being called a vet whore for retreating a 2 man vet 3 squad is a bit... odd I guess..


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« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2011, 08:48:41 pm »


That is true, and I myself am willing to admit I've done this a couple of times, but being called a vet whore for retreating a 2 man vet 3 squad is a bit... odd I guess..


 Tongue

Well it's tricky. Some players believe in no preservation and are 100% on winning games, others believe vet somehow helps to win games. I mean really, your riflemen will still be suppressed by a hmg at vet 0 or vet 3! Everyone has different views on what is acceptable and not. Really, if you're winning a game by that much that it's a sure victory, you can retreat a 4 man ranger squad if it's done its job -- there is no reason for you to risk losing it. If, however, it's the 40th minute and your 4 man ranger squad is the last AT left on the field, then it's in your teams best interest to keep it around Tongue. I think it's most likely that your teammate just got mad because you were losing or something.

It feels better not having vet, because you're never frustrated when it gets owned =p.
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« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2011, 10:46:17 pm »

IDK, I'm not SCARED of losing vet, but I'll sure as fuck retreat if the squad's about to die. For squads where member count doesn't matter (AT, essentially) I'll keep them on at 2 men until they're in imminent danger of dying.
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« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2011, 11:10:00 pm »

Who cares about vet, need to win. I hate how vetting units cost a game. Your team8 vetting units and you are losing everything. So smart team play! Whats the point to have all vetted coy and always lose games?
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« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2011, 12:24:27 am »

Who cares about vet, need to win. I hate how vetting units cost a game. Your team8 vetting units and you are losing everything. So smart team play! Whats the point to have all vetted coy and always lose games?
If I start tracking / changing vet loss on retreat - Ima gonna give a medal for the biggest coward Wink
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« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2011, 12:40:25 am »

You dont even need to track that: It's Armedshit.

Commiekiller and KKND come very close.
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« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2011, 01:56:46 am »

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« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2011, 06:50:14 am »

Well, I must be doing something right as my blitz company has a 1.7 W/L ratio... and not a single vet 3 unit... vet 2's are an extreme rarity  Wink

Agreesive play is more fun than trying to save veterans to be honest...
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« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2011, 07:02:05 am »


Agreesive play

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is more fun.

and that ^
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« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2011, 09:29:13 am »

1. Vet is useful

2. Zontar, when you get called a vetwhore look at who is calling you one (8thrifle)
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« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2011, 09:53:24 am »

You are being called a vet whore because the enemy team is jealous of the fact that you can keep your stuff alive when they can't.
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« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2011, 12:06:25 pm »

Playing Europe in Ruins a modification for Company of Heroes which enables persistency.


Have Vet 3 and 2 Squads, which, wanting to let survive for the next game because of the idea of persistency, retreat off the field at 3 4 or occasionally 5 men depending on the situation.


Get called a Vet whore for preserving my vet in a persistency mod.



Wut.

Playing a team game where the purpose (superficially) is to win.

Take an action that is sub-optimal for winning.

And you are surprised your teammates criticize you?

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« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2011, 12:33:54 pm »

depending on the unit i dont care if it lives. atg crews i try to keep alive because they become way more useful at vet 2 and 3. See what my vet 3 pak40 does to a pershing or churchill or heck even a panther.

vet 3 57mm's and 6 pdr's work wonders on heavy tanks as well.

riflemen aren't a big deal, but tommy's are real tough with vet, dont care about sappers. Tanks yes, artillery not so much without the cooldowns but are fun to have to show how epic you are.

i also love to have vet to bait certain vet hunting players after it cuz they get a hard on from killing them, which is the best thing about vet.
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