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RikiRude
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Focus Fire
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October 27, 2011, 02:05:37 pm »
How does everyone feel about this? I think it's a great ability, but it's quite powerful, I feel that it should be toned down, I think the perfect way to balance it would be if it fired like the .30 cal when using focus fire.
Right now you suppress, which is easy, takes one to two bursts, then hit focus fire, and you annihilate anything in front of your gun.
I'm not sure how it works exactly, is the damage just upped? Does the suppression stay the same? I see no trade off with this, with the amount of damage it does I feel that the suppression should be 0 when focus fire is in use (if it isn't already).
Combined with the T4, it's just an absolutely incredible T4. Even when you get close to these support teams, they have that extra health, better armor, and mp44s, your units get hurt quite bad.
Also I think maybe focus fire should be thrown in with P Pills, and make it an upgrade that you buy, also if it's on the bottom it could kind of become a ability that every terror T4 can use, which I think would be cool as well.
Alas, I haven't been able to get focus fire on my terror account, so I'm speaking about it with out using it, so please tell me horror stories of you using it and saying it isn't what I think it is, and that I should try it before I make a big deal
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brn4meplz
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Re: Focus Fire
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October 27, 2011, 02:35:00 pm »
Focus fire is stong.
Yes when you use it the suppression on the gun becomes 0, however you've already suppressed on the first burst and the enemy Infantry take a while to recover. Because we can't reverse suppression this is a very devastating ability.
Either we can tone it down or move it to the Tier 4.
Personally I'd move it to the Tier 4, that way it's prevelance is subdued. If Heavy support becomes too viable I'd probably drop the Sniper buffs down to the Tier 3 or something.
I use my Focus Fire HMGs(I had 7 callins of LMG Gren +HMG) to clean buildings and support my infantry pushes. the Accuracy boost means you can win a building fight against a .30 cal rather easily instead of the .30 beating you.
I had 2 HMG's in an area and suppressed an AB blob that had already used
Fire up!
Then I just alternated Focus fire between the HMG's to always have a Suppression tool. by the end of the engagement one of the HMG's had 21 kills
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PonySlaystation
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Re: Focus Fire
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October 27, 2011, 02:36:44 pm »
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October 27, 2011, 02:41:58 pm »
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DarkSoldierX
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Re: Focus Fire
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October 27, 2011, 02:47:06 pm »
Focus fire gives it 75% increased acc and 0.1 surpression.
That is rape.
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skaffa
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Re: Focus Fire
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October 27, 2011, 02:48:14 pm »
Should prolly be nerfed, altho I didnt fight against it yet, only used myself.
Should be a delay when you click Focus Fire, couple seconds.
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CafeMilani
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Re: Focus Fire
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October 27, 2011, 03:15:43 pm »
i have a story about it for you bro: whenever i use HMGs, people move their squads right in front of it, i dont even have to move them. so what i do is just click that button that helps to kill them a little faster. The End
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RikiRude
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Re: Focus Fire
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October 27, 2011, 03:58:05 pm »
Quote from: brn4meplz on October 27, 2011, 02:35:00 pm
Focus fire is stong.
Yes when you use it the suppression on the gun becomes 0, however you've already suppressed on the first burst and the enemy Infantry take a while to recover. Because we can't reverse suppression this is a very devastating ability.
Either we can tone it down or move it to the Tier 4.
Personally I'd move it to the Tier 4, that way it's prevelance is subdued. If Heavy support becomes too viable I'd probably drop the Sniper buffs down to the Tier 3 or something.
I use my Focus Fire HMGs(I had 7 callins of LMG Gren +HMG) to clean buildings and support my infantry pushes. the Accuracy boost means you can win a building fight against a .30 cal rather easily instead of the .30 beating you.
I had 2 HMG's in an area and suppressed an AB blob that had already used
Fire up!
Then I just alternated Focus fire between the HMG's to always have a Suppression tool. by the end of the engagement one of the HMG's had 21 kills
moved to a T4 would be a good idea imo, or making the accuracy lower, the problem is that incredible rate of fire it has, even making it 25% more accurate is a big difference. alternatively if you made it shoot in small bursts it would be better and make more sense.
right now it's not "focus fire" its just becoming super accurate, i imagine focus fire would be short accurate bursts every second or so.
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Tymathee
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Re: Focus Fire
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October 27, 2011, 04:36:34 pm »
if its .1 suppresion there's the issue. anything with suppresion will continue to suppres whats been suppressed, so maybe it needs to be all the way to 0. or moved toa t4, like it used to be...Heavy supports always been a t4 -_-
btw, why is such a powerful defensive doc ability in terror anyway, it should be in defensive, that has always made no sense to me. then again...88's and FF HMGs, never mind, leave it terror.
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8thRifleRegiment
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Re: Focus Fire
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October 27, 2011, 04:41:13 pm »
Quote from: Tymathee on October 27, 2011, 04:36:34 pm
btw, why is such a powerful defensive doc ability in terror anyway, it should be in defensive, that has always made no sense to me. then again...88's and FF HMGs, never mind, leave it terror.
well, i disagree strongly, trading slowling a unit down for wiping it off the map during an assault suits terror well, its a very agressove tactic and is best when use agressively. Supression is a defensive aspect. If you dont suppress a unit he can just walk right out of your ark, but if you supress, you can defend a point with supressing multiple units and supprting with infantry
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Mister Schmidt
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Re: Focus Fire
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October 27, 2011, 04:42:01 pm »
Hell yeah realistic MG42's!
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BigDick
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Re: Focus Fire
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October 27, 2011, 04:55:48 pm »
Quote from: RikiRude on October 27, 2011, 03:58:05 pm
or making the accuracy lower, the problem is that incredible rate of fire it has, even making it 25% more accurate is a big difference.
That doesnt make sense at all, 25% more accuracy is what it says 25% more accuracy
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DarkSoldierX
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Re: Focus Fire
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October 27, 2011, 05:06:56 pm »
Quote from: BigDick on October 27, 2011, 04:55:48 pm
That doesnt make sense at all, 25% more accuracy is what it says 25% more accuracy
I'm not sure what your getting at.
75% acc is absolutely HUGE.
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CafeMilani
Aloha
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Re: Focus Fire
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October 27, 2011, 05:07:47 pm »
You are, too
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DarkSoldierX
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Re: Focus Fire
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October 27, 2011, 05:14:11 pm »
Quote from: aloha622 on October 27, 2011, 05:07:47 pm
You are, too
Why thank you
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brn4meplz
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Re: Focus Fire
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October 27, 2011, 05:34:44 pm »
Yeah... Aloha, thats about the creepiest thing I've read her in a while.
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RikiRude
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Re: Focus Fire
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October 27, 2011, 05:37:05 pm »
right now it's 75% more accurate, with the high rate of fire, if they only increased the accuracy by 25% it would still make a big impact on it.
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Tymathee
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Re: Focus Fire
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October 27, 2011, 06:39:09 pm »
is that +75 or *75?
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BigDick
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Re: Focus Fire
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October 27, 2011, 06:52:08 pm »
Quote from: Tymathee on October 27, 2011, 06:39:09 pm
is that +75 or *75?
Well, what should i say....i'll try to explain it like that: "My signature has no space left"
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Groundfire
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Re: Focus Fire
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October 27, 2011, 06:55:46 pm »
Im gonna say this.
If we want to rework "Focus fire" to fit into a T3, we need to treat it like button.
Instead of an instant "+100% accuracy" and 0 suppression, it should be changed to an incremental increase in accuracy and an incremental decrease in suppresion, eventually equaling the current effectiveness of the ability, stretched out over 3-4 seconds.
Right now, it's just an instant accuracy buff at the push of a button which is gamey and broken for a free ability. I think we can do better.
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