Smokaz
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« on: November 10, 2011, 04:41:00 pm » |
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Did panzergrens get infantry armor, but not a health buff?
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LeoPhone
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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2011, 05:03:15 pm » |
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They got health buff too
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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2011, 05:04:53 pm » |
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and DPS buff too making them better than grens at less the cost.
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Tymathee
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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2011, 05:06:46 pm » |
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they have gren rifles last i remember, with one free g43.
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Hicks58
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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2011, 05:34:39 pm » |
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They use their own rifle which sits as worse than a Gren rifle, but better than a Volks rifle.
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| DarkSoldierX
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« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2011, 06:02:21 pm » |
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Your freaking RGD coder and you cant tell they have roughly 8% higher dps vs infantry armour compared to grens and even higher DPS to soldier armour too? Only half the squad has a pgren kar anyway. |
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Tymathee
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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2011, 06:10:46 pm » |
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oh, thats right. oen is g43, one is a leaderrifle and 2 are kars
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« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2011, 07:31:48 pm » |
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Your freaking RGD coder and you cant tell they have roughly 8% higher dps vs infantry armour compared to grens and even higher DPS to soldier armour too?
Only half the squad has a pgren kar anyway.
Are you expecting an RGD coder to memorize every little detail in the RGD's and be able to recite the facts off the top of his head......? If he has made an error, fine. But try not to be too much of an ass about it  |
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LeoPhone
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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2011, 07:46:58 pm » |
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k done calculations.
grens have more dps than pgrens at all ranges.
won't post actual stats coz I hate all of you and you made me waste time.
sry no errors from me today. keep trying
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2011, 08:01:54 pm » |
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obvious troll is obvious, tym. no, wait a minute..
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« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2011, 08:14:10 pm » |
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Ok let me bring it out for you in without even fully calculating it -
Using your DPS macro and RGDs, we can assume that -
Grens have
3x Stormtrooper Kar
1x Leader Kar
Panzergrens have
2x Pgren kar
1x leader kar
1x PE G43
Alright.
1 stormtrooper kar puts out the raw dps of 5.89 at close range.
Since we have 3 stormy kars we multiply it by 3
5.89 x 3 is 17.67
Alright now we need to add the leader gun.
1 Wher leaderrifle puts out the raw dps of 6.83 at close range.
Ok 17.67 + 6.83 = 24.5
Grens raw close range dps = 24.5
Ok now lets do pgrens
1 pgren kar deals the raw dps of 4.55
They have two Pgren kars so thats
4.55 x 2 = 9.1
Pgrens also have a leader rifle.
A pgren leader rifle deals the raw dps of 7.85
9.1 + 7.85 = 16.95
Pgrens also have a PE G43, which deals the raw dps of 7.27
16.95 + 7.27 = 24.22 dps
Raw Close DPS of
Grens vs Pgren
24.5 24.22
Now you may say pgren raw dps is slightly worse, so why would I deal higher DPS in actuality?
Because Pgren Kar and Pgren Leader gives 15% bonus vs infantry armour, making them do actually more than a gren squad.
Took like 3 minutes to do that simple calculation. I hope you didn't calculate the full dps on your own. Now THAT would be a unfortunate waist of time >.< (unless your mysty)
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« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2011, 08:40:59 pm » |
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So my Pzgrens actually do 29.08 damage cuz of 4 G43's. interesting
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LeoPhone
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« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2011, 09:01:53 pm » |
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if you've really read the rgds or even paid attention in a game with PE you would have known pgrens don't have a leader rifle.
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« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2011, 09:36:09 pm » |
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Dont worry leo your the rgd coder and you are correct , but for some logic is difficult  |
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« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2011, 09:43:44 pm » |
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if you've really read the rgds or even paid attention in a game with PE you would have known pgrens don't have a leader rifle.
FUUUUUUUUUU IVE BEEN BESTED Oh noes im 6.5% off! MYSTHALIN I HAVE FAILED YOU!NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO oh and big woop 6% less dps at close, does that justify it being that much cheaper yet available to superior upgrades? |
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« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2011, 11:38:56 pm » |
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Yes.. Yes it does quit the QQ becuase pgrens run you over
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nugnugx
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« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2011, 01:27:06 am » |
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Did panzergrens get infantry armor, but not a health buff? yes to both, they are grens with worse dps. Seems you missed some changes Smokaz. |
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2011, 04:35:07 am » |
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you're such a failure darksoldier
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« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2011, 05:50:24 am » |
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Still for 15 more mp than riflemen you still pwn them in unupgraded combat.
p.s. leo why did you guys make a new entity entirely for a g43 panzergren when you could simply replace the leader weapon with a g43.
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