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Author Topic: LT vs Wehrmacht officer  (Read 24321 times)
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Scotzmen Offline
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« Reply #40 on: February 03, 2012, 04:11:39 am »


3. the british officer buffs multiple units at once - the wm officer usually 1 unit - which can be extended to an aura by an additional T3 doctrine unlock

5. the british officers  gets the buffs increased with veterancy the wm officer not

LT only buffs direct fire wepaons on infantry. Typically you have what, 2 tommy squads, maybe a few sappers in 25 pop? Anything more is usually Vehicles etc. As far as im aware, it only buffs brens, and Enfields. Support weapons, piats, Rifle nades arn't. He buffs, 2 weapons thats arn't doctrinal. Maybe 3 if he can buff the webly revolver of a captain. 4 at most if your Mandos. I may have forgotten the rest.

Do you know how hard it is to keep officers alive? Especially with vet? Everyone trys to kill vet, and officers are usually the first target if you stick em in with some ANZAC or tommies. With vet? Its going to be like they have a bullseye on there head. Sure, they have a 50/50 chance to live against tank shells, but the WM officers can always. He can even survive being flamed for 15secs like a boss.
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jackmccrack Offline
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« Reply #41 on: February 03, 2012, 04:37:22 am »

LT only affects small arms so basically a piece of shit
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Scotzmen Offline
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« Reply #42 on: February 03, 2012, 04:45:09 am »

Just a question to the RGD coders, why did you give the arua 2 damage modifiers, that add up to 15%. One has 1.04, and the other is 1.11?

An if i read it right, the actual area is 35?

Also, how do i find out what the ability affects?
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smurfORnot Offline
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« Reply #43 on: February 03, 2012, 04:49:40 am »

LT only affects small arms so basically a piece of shit

well, so does officer,and he only does it to a single unit.
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« Reply #44 on: February 03, 2012, 05:46:54 am »

well, so does officer,and he only does it to a single unit.

Officer can supervise non-infantry units....
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smurfORnot Offline
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« Reply #45 on: February 03, 2012, 05:53:20 am »

like? tanks? cant without unlocks. mg's,88's etc? also cant without unlocks,and when he can,his buffs affect crew,not gun itself.
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NightRain Offline
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« Reply #46 on: February 03, 2012, 05:54:06 am »

Officer can supervise non-infantry units....

Not without unlocks. T3 is required to Supervise a vehicle. Senior officer only buffs the crew not the weapon itself.
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« Reply #47 on: February 03, 2012, 06:12:29 am »

Right, but there is nothing enabling similar effects from the brit capt/lt.
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smurfORnot Offline
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« Reply #48 on: February 03, 2012, 06:20:38 am »

so how is officer then problem?

If blitz panther shoots v1's via doctrine unlocks,do we nerf all panthers to die in a single shot because blitz one can be so powerful?
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NightRain Offline
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« Reply #49 on: February 03, 2012, 06:29:43 am »

Right, but there is nothing enabling similar effects from the brit capt/lt.

There was once a doctrine that allowed Ltds to buff Vickers machineguns.

It was like World War 1 when Axis infantry were caught in its firing arc and my company loved that.

Same thing with 2inch mortar.

It was nerfed for some reason.

Now, convince me why Ltd and Captain should be able to buff these? Because Wehrmacht gets it? In that case I want a CCT for PE or Wehrmacht to roll with the tanks because British get it.
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« Reply #50 on: February 03, 2012, 07:16:08 am »

Tech structure arguments from vcoh, irrelevant in EIRR. The proportion of survivability and cost compared to other units, relevant.

LT also main buffs the bren and the enfield, two rather crappy weapons atm.

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go play defensive and use them and it will be a pleasure for me to join you as allies   - the grass is always greener on the other side

3v3!! I'm coming axis too!
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« Reply #51 on: February 03, 2012, 03:11:32 pm »

Smokaz we should make this game happen.
But we'll never know if it does because nobody sees bigdick in launcher.
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Your mom, and your grandma wont know....
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« Reply #52 on: February 03, 2012, 03:12:03 pm »

furthermore if you (contaminator and valexandes) thinks the good tools (like the officer, rocket arty u complained etc.) are always on axis (in this case wehr-defensive) why i see you sitting in the launcher only as us and british?


derp just because you havnt seen it doesnt mean it didnt happen (partly because there are never enough allies... partly because axis arent my play style). I have played defensive with officer and 88s... with a starting lvl 5 company I found it unentertaining to just herp derp with everything.

I have done this to get a better feel about the WM officer... so yes I have every reason to comment on both. Your turn to try running brit officers and watch them get oneshot all day.
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« Reply #53 on: February 03, 2012, 03:19:39 pm »

Smokaz we should make this game happen.
But we'll never know if it does because nobody sees bigdick in launcher.

no we should make this game happen as 2v2 between you two vollhonks and me and aloha e.g.

no need for other people to carry ur epic failness

and @contaminoobor no need for justifying your "im not gonna play wehr but everything there is op"-failness

just grow some balls and try all doctrines and factions equally before starting epic QQing

ps: im not saying the wehr officer sux balls just i don't see any sense in comparing it with brit lt cos of different prequesites kthxbye
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« Reply #54 on: February 03, 2012, 03:47:39 pm »

lul at you bigdick. oh yea instead of doing a fair game you say "lets roflstack against you so that I can claim ultimate troll victory" grow a pair of balls to go with the "bigdick" that you have and stop getting enraged on forums
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« Reply #55 on: February 03, 2012, 03:51:10 pm »

rofl epic excuses what do you want

aloha sux balls i was never good in eir and i played 3 games today - lost all of them - so how "fair" do you want it?

should i additional play without infantry upgrades or running just 20+ pop callins or something?
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Contaminator Offline
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« Reply #56 on: February 03, 2012, 03:53:18 pm »

epic excuses? lul ok...
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jackmccrack Offline
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« Reply #57 on: February 03, 2012, 05:09:34 pm »

It is stupid to insist the Wehr Officer becomes good only with Tier 3s. He is good right out of the box and all Defensive players get a T3 that buffs the officer.

So every CW doctrine should have something that buffs the LT and Capt.
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smurfORnot Offline
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« Reply #58 on: February 03, 2012, 05:12:05 pm »

not all defensive players pick same t3 FYI
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jackmccrack Offline
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« Reply #59 on: February 03, 2012, 05:29:11 pm »

Every T3 buffs the Wehr Officer FYI -_-
supervision

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+10 range, supervision works on vehicles

Middle
Supervision becomes passive within 20m

Bottom
+10% supervision buff, works on arty

Doesn't matter how you want to spin it Wehr Officer is in a tier of his own when it comes to Command units. Is it balanced?
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