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[8thRifleRegiment]

just for the sake of asking, why do panzer grens have 80 health while falls only have 60? im paying 7 pool for these doods and they have less health then my basic infantry unit? i know that they get all these extra abilities but as a special inf, like ALL the other should it not have either the same health as the basic inf or more? i mean, if its going to stay at 60hp it should only be 5 pool rather then 7. PGs are 3 pool, and falls have 2 extra perks over pgrens, (fg42s and cloak) which should give it 5 pool rather then 7.

You cannt judge pool value based on the buffs you can get for the unit, if you were to do that, then grenadiers from blitzkrieg doctrine should be 7 pool as well becuase they get elite armor.

Let the flaming and trolling ensue.

That is all

[smurfORnot]

falls OPPPPPP,they move and cloak,then they ambus and kill ya!

they should be 10pool and have 50health!

[8thRifleRegiment]

You cannt judge pool value based on the buffs you can get for the unit, if you were to do that, then grenadiers from blitzkrieg doctrine should be 7 pool as well becuase they get elite armor.

[smurfORnot]

seems you can with all hate towards them 

[LeoPhone]

8thwifle u noobie

[Hicks58]

You seem to be overlooking the fact that Falls have Soldier armour by default. This makes most small arms do between 0.75 and 0.6 damage towards them, making their health essentially 75-84 depending on the target they engage.

[TheVolskinator]

According to 8th, all PE units and Riflemen have soldier armor 

[Audemed]

It also means they light up like a match when flames get anywhere near them.

[Tymathee]

Falls - cloak in cover
PzGrens - dont

Falls - soldier armor
pzgrens - dont

simple enough.

[8thRifleRegiment]

an ability ability does not warrant a reduction in health, and by your logic hicks an armor type with extra buffs should make a unit have less health? rangers have more health then rifleman and they have elite armor, i know the light up when flames come close but still ,thier emmense amount of hp is what makes them the viable choice, im just suggestion maybe falls have 70 hp rather then a squishy 60, or atleast people loook into it. Falls are like the glass cannon, you open up with ambush, once the ambush wears off, all they are is just pgrens with less HP. they die hella quick

[NightRain]

an ability ability does not warrant a reduction in health, and by your logic hicks an armor type with extra buffs should make a unit have less health? rangers have more health then rifleman and they have elite armor, i know the light up when flames come close but still ,thier emmense amount of hp is what makes them the viable choice, im just suggestion maybe falls have 70 hp rather then a squishy 60, or atleast people loook into it. Falls are like the glass cannon, you open up with ambush, once the ambush wears off, all they are is just pgrens with less HP. they die hella quick

They never decreased Falls health, they've increased PGrens Health to match Wehrmacth Grenadiers.

[jackmccrack]

Falls always had 60hp.

[EliteGren]

once the ambush wears off, all they are is just pgrens with less HP. they die hella quick

What part of they have soldier armor and PGrens don't did you not understand? It comes with several advantages, like BARs having a 0.4 damage modifier vs that shit, which technically raises their 'health' against small arms way above PGrens.

The only thing the PGrens are better against with their higher health are vehicles, and falls are not made to fight vehicles. They are good at what they are supposed to be good at, which is fighting infantry. It all makes sense.

Which reminds me that Assault Grens are utter shit since their soldier armor was removed. Should be reverted

[Demon767]

anzacs should be made better to, 6 man + elite armour

[CrazyWR]

It also means they light up like a match when flames get anywhere near them.

this...People with soldier armor are really just guys that walk into combat covered in gasoline

[NightRain]

this...People with soldier armor are really just guys that walk into combat covered in gasoline

They also come with a plasma armor that deflects bar bullets

[smurfORnot]

The only thing the PGrens are better against with their higher health are vehicles, and falls are not made to fight vehicles. They are good at what they are supposed to be good at, which is fighting infantry. It all makes sense.

so falls tankbusters are supposed to fight inf?

[8thRifleRegiment]

lol assault grenadiers, what unit is that? i never see them anymore

[Smokaz]

Assault grens are supposedly like grenadiers now, yet everytime I use them they seem to fall apart much quicker.

[Groundfire]

Assault grens are supposedly like grenadiers now, yet everytime I use them they seem to fall apart much quicker.

Statistically, there is no difference between assault grens and normal grens.

Same HP, same armor, the only difference is the guns they use. This is quite the anomaly considering how everyone thought Grens with MP44s would be so good. Their utility relies in their discount at this point. (assault weapons usually are priced higher than the current Assault grens)

My opinion is because they dont have an armor type condusive to assaulting, they will just be ripped to shreds. Usually if a squad has a close combat weapon, its got elite armor or soldier armor, or they were intended to get it at some point, like vCoH Wehr vet 2.