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johnnyaustin
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Bar over Grease gun?
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April 03, 2012, 02:40:01 pm »
I was wondering if the bar would be better then the grease gun. i have top tier 3 and bottom tier 3. and officers to buff them.
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8thRifleRegiment
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Re: Bar over Grease gun?
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April 03, 2012, 02:42:31 pm »
Grease gun starts with horrid moving accuracy and the value of its moving accuracy is soo slow, that .5 more isent significant enough to make a differance. BARs are better hands down for moving accuracy
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triple bars over grease guns every time.
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Spartan_Marine88
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Re: Bar over Grease gun?
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April 03, 2012, 02:42:55 pm »
The bar is better then the grease gun. That being said, grease guns will shred KCH.
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Re: Bar over Grease gun?
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April 03, 2012, 02:51:42 pm »
Depends. BARs work in a wider variety of scenarios while grease guns only really work in 1 but excel at that
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Spartan_Marine88
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Re: Bar over Grease gun?
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April 03, 2012, 02:52:36 pm »
yeah, thats why i would keep 1 or 2 grease gun squads around personally.
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johnnyaustin
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Re: Bar over Grease gun?
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April 03, 2012, 02:55:13 pm »
Ok but the problem is, i can only get one of the 2 tier unlocks. its either Inf equipment, or inf support weapons. So is it worth it to get inf equipment?
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Spartan_Marine88
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Re: Bar over Grease gun?
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April 03, 2012, 02:56:39 pm »
Thats really your call.
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Tymathee
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Re: Bar over Grease gun?
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April 03, 2012, 03:26:57 pm »
depends on how you like to play.
If you're more infantry based and would actually use the GG 's and Zooks, go for Inf Eq, if you feel like a Jumbo and/or GMC would help to support your infantry, go there.
I've seen both excel quite well.
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Re: Bar over Grease gun?
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April 03, 2012, 03:27:46 pm »
Cant beat supressions.
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Re: Bar over Grease gun?
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April 03, 2012, 03:31:43 pm »
Both are awesome with oversupplied. I would have to lean towards bars tho because they suppress, and just perform better overall.
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Re: Bar over Grease gun?
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Quote from: Spartan_Marine88 on April 03, 2012, 02:42:55 pm
The bar is better then the grease gun. That being said, grease guns will shred KCH.
No no no please don't do this again.
Do I need to remind you AGAIN that a oversupplied grease gun squad has less DPS then a normal oaklands? And that they will loose that dps much faster?
Add in the fact that oaks retain vet far better and in-game it would actually be more realistic if it was a vet 2 oaks kch they were fighting?
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Re: Bar over Grease gun?
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April 03, 2012, 04:47:05 pm »
Have you even seen these guys Dark? For that matter, have you played with/against them? They fuckin' shred Oakleaves KCH, even in
my
hands. Nuff' said.
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DarkSoldierX
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Re: Bar over Grease gun?
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April 03, 2012, 04:55:28 pm »
Quote from: TheVolskinator on April 03, 2012, 04:47:05 pm
Have you even seen these guys Dark? For that matter, have you played with/against them? They fuckin' shred Oakleaves KCH, even in
my
hands. Nuff' said.
Have you ever seen these stats Volks? For that matter, have you ever calculated/appraise them? They fuckin' ping off Oaksleaves KCH, even in
Lord Salan's
hands.
In all seriousness, it goes against mathematical law for oaks to loose against them on average.
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8thRifleRegiment
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Re: Bar over Grease gun?
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April 03, 2012, 04:58:06 pm »
4 man kch will win if they both in no cover, but if the kch have to charge a full health 6man 6greasegun rifleman sqaud with an officer, dig those kch a grave
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Spartan_Marine88
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Re: Bar over Grease gun?
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April 03, 2012, 05:00:16 pm »
Quote from: DarkSoldierX on April 03, 2012, 04:55:28 pm
Have you ever seen these stats Volks? For that matter, have you ever calculated/appraise them? They fuckin' ping off Oaksleaves KCH, even in
Lord Salan's
hands.
In all seriousness, it goes against mathematical law for oaks to loose against them on average.
Well, i have
USED
them, and grease guns hurt, bad
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DarkSoldierX
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Re: Bar over Grease gun?
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April 03, 2012, 05:03:39 pm »
Quote from: 8thRifleRegiment on April 03, 2012, 04:58:06 pm
4 man kch will win if they both in no cover, but if the kch have to charge a full health 6man 6greasegun rifleman sqaud with an officer, dig those kch a grave
Now your talking mathematical sense. These guys seem to think that grease guns make mince meat them in most situations and have the upper hand even on fair terrain with KCH the ones moving in, when in reality thats not true.
Quote from: Spartan_Marine88 on April 03, 2012, 05:00:16 pm
Well, i have
USED
them, and grease guns hurt, bad
And let me guess, you were in green cover and the KCH user was too lazy to attempt a flank?
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aeroblade56
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Re: Bar over Grease gun?
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April 03, 2012, 06:28:54 pm »
When i have used grease guns i have been with a officer and its usually 1v1 im in orange hes in nothing i have a officer he has no medkits left and i still make it out with 1-2 men maybe. they do good damage and like Mp40s they are a cheap alternative to fight assault units with a
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Hicks58
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Re: Bar over Grease gun?
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April 03, 2012, 06:45:47 pm »
I don't really like grease guns for the reason I don't really like MP40's.
It's an assault weapon with a 0.2 moving accuracy modifier.
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Re: Bar over Grease gun?
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Reply #19 on:
April 03, 2012, 11:53:10 pm »
Greasguns are great for 3 reasons
1; they have a high fire rate and because of that there is a natural fear of them.
2. they are on a platform which is designed to DIE so you will IF YOU ARE WILLING TO GET FULL PRICE, sacrifice them to last man, this will make them extra dangerous,
3: Because they are on a cheap platform you can get a lot more of them aka even if you loose 2 to 1 kch you will still have 2 more where the other player will not always have 1 more kch.
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