Modeling for COH

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[Smokaz]

anyone know what model studio you use for modeling coh models? 3dsmax?

[RoyalHants]

3ds max 2009

[Smokaz]

Does anyone have a link to any exported models from COH so you can take a look at them in 3ds max?

[Groundfire]

This is unknown territory smokey. Your best bet would be to go to relicnews and find some tutorials.

Also the Modern Combat Moddb page has some good video tutorials of how to use and import models.

[Smokaz]

I remember reading that animating was a problem for coh models, but we have "new" tanks that seem fine to me.

Do u have a link to those?

[Groundfire]

I remember reading that animating was a problem for coh models, but we have "new" tanks that seem fine to me.

Do u have a link to those?

You have them packed into your EuropeinruinsDataArt.sga file. Just upack that with corsix.

Whatever program they use to animate and look at the models just opens up the files that we all have regarding new models. I think they are the ones in the art folder with the .rgo and .rgm extentions.

From what I understand, "importing" is not easy and it tends to mess up the model to make it look really jagged and the skin wont fit.

This is all practically black magic to me. I only have the vaguest idea of how it works.

[smurfORnot]

steal them from WOT,and just shrink them,problem?

[aeroblade56]

I remember reading that animating was a problem for coh models, but we have "new" tanks that seem fine to me.

Do u have a link to those?

http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?177673-Tank-Modeling-Tutorials-Enjoy!

Have fun i took about 3 days out of my life just to read that and understand it so.

[Headshotkiller]

I used 3dsmax 8, thought 2009 wouldnt work?
Anyway, for my opinion animating isnt that hard.
Once I "took" some models from Men of War and got them into COH, like this Panzer I:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xrxRWB9Is8&context=C4f8af27ADvjVQa1PpcFMXtczPRxMKsYg1TFTeV9vAyv9xAJzs0cE=
Well, its not perfect but playable.

[Groundfire]

I used 3dsmax 8, thought 2009 wouldnt work?
Anyway, for my opinion animating isnt that hard.
Once I "took" some models from Men of War and got them into COH, like this Panzer I:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xrxRWB9Is8&context=C4f8af27ADvjVQa1PpcFMXtczPRxMKsYg1TFTeV9vAyv9xAJzs0cE=
Well, its not perfect but playable.

I remember you! Why was that pzkw1 never released? It was pretty damn good.

[aeroblade56]

I used 3dsmax 8, thought 2009 wouldnt work?
Anyway, for my opinion animating isnt that hard.
Once I "took" some models from Men of War and got them into COH, like this Panzer I:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xrxRWB9Is8&context=C4f8af27ADvjVQa1PpcFMXtczPRxMKsYg1TFTeV9vAyv9xAJzs0cE=
Well, its not perfect but playable.

i personally dont care if its eye candy as long as it works haha.

[Headshotkiller]

Ok, when I started with modeling/animating it wasnt already sure that its not alowed to use MOW models in other games.
Here are some examples what i did also which I was able to recover from my old mod:

The SdKfz 231 and the Panzer 1 are fully animated.
I never got to know how to animate fieldguns right, so it never worked like Its supposed to.
The Opel Blitz was a test if placed combat slots in 3dsmax work. They did, but the skin was fucked up lol.

[Mister Schmidt]

Dude that PzKpfwI looks awesome!

Why aren't MoW models allowed in CoH? Surely they can't own the IP to it if it was an actual vehicle..?

[Groundfire]

Dude that PzKpfwI looks awesome!

Why aren't MoW models allowed in CoH? Surely they can't own the IP to it if it was an actual vehicle..?m

Well the story i heard was that mow assets were usable in mods provided that the mod made no money off of their usage. This is why it was acceptable for the N44 mod to use the MoW P3 that they currently have.
Even so, relicnews may have a problem with players reusing models, but we sure dont. shit Mr.scruff's jagdtiger was a Mow rip and no one complained and everybody uses it.
If its the model thats an issue, well we actually have a handful of people capable of modeling, just no one to animate what we make.

Headshot, how long have you been playing eirr? haha

[Headshotkiller]

Hm, started in 2007 when it was under command of fldash and the weblauncher
Some breaks... changing nicknames...

Btw, were they all from MOW? (MrScruffs Models, some never released)

[EscforrealityTLS]

My understanding is that most where never uploaded and all where lost. Most have been remade now though.

The correct story relating to the MOW models is that MOW or at least their publisher have never and will not give permission for their stuff to be used in other games, mod or otherwise. I believe the misunderstanding arises from from a MOW mod team that gave a COH mod permission to use some of their models.

Autodesk 3DS Max 8 is the program that is needed to model and export to COH anything newer is not supported. I personally can't get the damn thing set up, it always gives errors.

COH has quite a few modellers though, what we really need are people that can animate and put stuff ingame.

Headshotkiller, when I get 3DS Max set up my plan is to add those combat slots to a crap ton of half-tracks, for a mod I'm working on, do you remember how you did it? Mind you this is coming from a guy who can't even set it up properly! 

[Mister Schmidt]

Yes, but how can a model of a real life vehicle possibly be owned by a game company? That's what I don't get

[aeroblade56]

Yes, but how can a model of a real life vehicle possibly be owned by a game company? That's what I don't get

i already made sure no one could model my face. But i left abercrombie have the rights

[Headshotkiller]

@EscforrealityTLS

what Errors do you get?

[Sachaztan]

Yes, but how can a model of a real life vehicle possibly be owned by a game company? That's what I don't get

I might be wrong, but this is how I understand it:

They own those particular models, not all models of the same vehicles.

This way you could make your own from scratch that just happens to look 99.999999999% like theirs and use that just fine. If they can tell a legit one made from scratch from a ever so slightly modified version of their own I do not know.