brn4meplz
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« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2012, 02:16:31 am » |
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And if you're RE and the only off map you get drops smoke?
Except that 2 17's with APDS wrecks a Panther in nearly a single volley. 17's are scary shit man. |
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« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2012, 02:20:06 am » |
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Except that 2 17's with APDS wrecks a Panther in nearly a single volley.
17's are scary shit man.
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aeroblade56
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« Reply #22 on: June 27, 2012, 02:21:50 am » |
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17s are scary assuming u get one in place without it getting nuked by a mortar. those things are so slow they make damage engine kts look like the millennium falcon of starwars going lightspeed.
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You are welcome to your opinion.
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« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2012, 02:37:49 am » |
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wtf is APDS?
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kwiatekkek
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« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2012, 02:44:02 am » |
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"ap rounds" for 17pdrs
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Heartmann
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« Reply #25 on: June 27, 2012, 10:01:13 am » |
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Great nerf... As if thats needed.... only way i have really seen a cost effective panther is when u have 2 repairs, otherwise its really really hard to get your money worth! Ppl wine to much man God dammit! x(
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aeroblade56
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« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2012, 10:05:43 am » |
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which everyone has heartman. i used to see people get 20 kills regular from shabs panthers, or kwias.
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« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2012, 10:07:44 am » |
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Great nerf... As if thats needed.... only way i have really seen a cost effective panther is when u have 2 repairs, otherwise its really really hard to get your money worth! Ppl wine to much man God dammit! x(
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aeroblade56
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« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2012, 10:13:14 am » |
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the m10 and m18 got nerfed why shouldnt the panther? thats a terrible example considering m18s were cheap.
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Heartmann
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« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2012, 10:25:22 am » |
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Not really, and I did not want to nerf the m10 or m18, they where fine! Never had issues with them... well m18 had abit retard sniping sometimes as did m10, but it was all good, since axis had same shit.
Ppl who complain try using the units you accuse of beein op, and if you get high scores within 2-3 games of never beofre using the said units, then yes something is wrong, (2-3 fair games btw, you stomping a holes xD ) otherwise chill teh fuck out.
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aeroblade56
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« Reply #30 on: June 27, 2012, 10:27:50 am » |
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before i played with my crew i used to run HVAP m18s and get 7 kills regularly on each.
So 7x6 42 kills had double repairs plus the ODD panther kill here or there.
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« Reply #31 on: June 27, 2012, 11:17:57 am » |
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17s are scary assuming u get one in place without it getting nuked by a mortar. those things are so slow they make damage engine kts look like the millennium falcon of starwars going lightspeed.
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1. New tactics? it's like JAWS, first one in the water dies
RCA-land where shells fall like raindrops and the Captain is an invincible god
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TheWindCriesMary
The Ethics Police
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« Reply #32 on: June 27, 2012, 01:28:06 pm » |
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The fact that we're still at a point in this mod where knee-jerk, anecdotally inspired, post-game rants are capable of prompting nerfs of perfectly fine units (that are not used or used well by the person/people most vocal about making the nerf) remains one of the biggest obstacles to achieving an effective and intelligent balance process for EIR.
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Vermillion Hawk: Do you ever make a post that doesnt make you come across as an extreme douchebag?
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Hicks58
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« Reply #33 on: June 27, 2012, 01:30:50 pm » |
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Panther has 0.6 Accuracy against infantry.
Both M10's and M18's had 0.3 accuracy and it was proclaimed their AI prowess with their main gun was far too high.
So yeah, if the Panther gets a kick down with it's AI effectiveness, I assure you it would be statistically sound.
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I mean I know Obama was the first one in EiR to get a card. and tbfh the Race card is pretty OP. but Romney has the K.K.K., those guys seem to camo anywhere. So OP units from both sides.
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TheWindCriesMary
The Ethics Police
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« Reply #34 on: June 27, 2012, 01:38:06 pm » |
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Can you please explain to me why you are talking about an m10/hellcats accuracy vs infantry in this thread about a completely different unit with a very different purpose/role? It is completely baffling to me. I even had to check and make sure I was in the right thread.
Maybe we should look into the accuracy of a Bren gun carrier vs atgs to determine the accuracy vs atgs of a king tiger? If we decreased both to the same number, it would be both "statistically sound" and yet, coincidentally, completely freaking retarded.(pardon my French)
Or instead we can pull our heads out of our collective asses and stop trying to cross balance completely different units as if they are counterparts. And when I say that i mean everyone.
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Hicks58
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« Reply #35 on: June 27, 2012, 02:19:16 pm » |
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M10/M18 = TD.
Panther = Heavy TD.
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« Reply #36 on: June 27, 2012, 02:28:01 pm » |
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M10/M18 = TD.
Panther = Heavy Medium
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nikomas
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« Reply #37 on: June 27, 2012, 02:30:16 pm » |
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Since when the hell was the panther a TD?
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Hicks58
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« Reply #38 on: June 27, 2012, 02:30:59 pm » |
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Fixed
If it were designed to be a medium tank it'd follow the same frame as every other medium tank in range and accuracy. It's range and accuracy follows the design doctrine of TD's that CoH follows, but to a larger degree. Convincing yourself that it's anything other than a Heavy TD is just clinging on to real world terminology which has been shown to mean shit all in CoH. |
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TheIcelandicManiac
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« Reply #39 on: June 27, 2012, 02:31:05 pm » |
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Since when the hell was the panther a TD?
Sence it can counter every single other allied tank exluding the Super Pershing. |
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