*

Account

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
November 05, 2024, 11:44:44 pm

Login with username, password and session length

Resources

Recent posts

[November 01, 2024, 12:46:37 pm]

[October 05, 2024, 07:29:20 am]

[September 05, 2024, 01:54:13 pm]

[July 16, 2024, 11:30:34 pm]

[June 22, 2024, 06:49:40 am]

[March 08, 2024, 12:13:38 am]

[March 08, 2024, 12:12:54 am]

[March 08, 2024, 12:09:37 am]

[December 30, 2023, 08:00:58 pm]

[February 04, 2023, 11:46:41 am]
Pages: [1] 2   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: Not enough pool for resources...COOL  (Read 5591 times)
0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.
CrazyWR Offline
EIR Veteran
Posts: 3616


« on: July 08, 2012, 10:23:24 pm »

http://s762.photobucket.com/albums/xx268/baseball0/?action=view&current=notenoughpoolforresources.png

115 MP and 195 fuel left over in a fresh defensive company placed in capital sector of warmap.  I'm sure once I move to a resource sector it will be even worse.  I added the 3 pumas shown in the picture at the very end because I had nothing else I could spend resources on.  They don't have repairs.  With the advent of the warmap, resources have gone up.  Pool needs to be removed or increased to realize the new reality.  Right now I can build companies like this repeatedly over several different doctrines.  Its very frustrating.
Logged

1. New tactics? it's like JAWS, first one in the water dies

RCA-land where shells fall like raindrops and the Captain is an invincible god
Groundfire Offline
EIRR community manager
EIR Veteran
Posts: 8511



« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2012, 10:29:24 pm »

Whats the problem? Your running out of pool? When you buy expensive things like 2 panthers, you do know it is supposed to do that, right?
Logged

Latest Shoutcast:
EIRR Groundcast 11 "The Super Dev Showdown!!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOGm79rXWhU (full version)

aeroblade56 Offline
Development
*
Posts: 3871



« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2012, 10:32:05 pm »

Whats the problem? Your running out of pool? When you buy expensive things like 2 panthers, you do know it is supposed to do that, right?
Why do bars on AB rifle cost a total of 7 pool?.

It doesnt make sense at all, so they drop from the sky pfft. They drop 60m from where they are supposed to.

Logged

You are welcome to your opinion.

You are also welcome to be wrong.
PonySlaystation Offline
EIR Veteran
Posts: 4136



« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2012, 10:32:08 pm »

What spam are you running?
Logged

Sharks are not monsters Henley, they are cute, cuddly and misunderstood. They love humans. sometimes they love TOO much. They love people so much that sometimes their kisses separate people into two flailing pieces which are consumed by other sharks in a frenzy of peace and joy.
CrazyWR Offline
EIR Veteran
Posts: 3616


« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2012, 10:43:06 pm »

What I'm spamming is irrelevant.  The point is I filled up 3 pools and a decent amount of the 4th one and ran out of pool but still had resources.  Pool needs increased.  I shouldn't be forced into using certain units simply to fill out pool.  With the increased amount of resources the warmap induces, the pool totals need to be increased incrementally as well.

Also, Panthers are the most efficient use of my armor pool, the other tanks take up MORE munitions for an equivalent amount of pool...mostly due to the fact that Panther repair is only 60 munitions for some reason.  I'd say 80 would be better, but thats not the point of this thread.
« Last Edit: July 08, 2012, 10:51:35 pm by CrazyWR » Logged
Unkn0wn Offline
No longer retired
*
Posts: 18379


« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2012, 04:23:30 am »

Probably has to do with the panther pool increase which was a little excessive IMO
Logged
LeoPhone Offline
Honoured Member
*
Posts: 0


« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2012, 05:21:28 am »

Probably has to do with the panther pool increase which was a little excessive IMO

why?
PIV is 12 pool and 220 fuel
panther is 24 pool and 450 fuel
Logged
Unkn0wn Offline
No longer retired
*
Posts: 18379


« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2012, 05:28:54 am »

Just because the F price is double doesn't mean the pool should be too. That's not how pool cost is measured or calculated. Let's not go into this further.
Logged
Mysthalin Offline
Tired King of Stats
*
Posts: 9028


« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2012, 07:39:39 am »

How is pool price calculated or measured then, unknown?

I was always under the impression that it was created under the general rule of "some guy arbitrarily set it to something and nobody important complained too much about it". Of course I might be mistaken and there is a deeply complicated multi-variate function that derives the precise values of pool cost - in which case I'd love to see it in it's majestic glory.
Logged

tank130 Offline
Sugar Daddy
*
Posts: 8889


« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2012, 07:42:43 am »

Please don't derail the thread into a panther thread......

The OP states he can do this in a number of companies.



Why would we increase pool just because you have additional resources? You are not limiting your company in any way. You would be able to build this company pre warmap with advantages.

So you get some additional bonuses and can not use them with this particular build - so what? You make it sound like you are being handicapped in some way.

Crazy - you post is crazy.....
Logged

Quote
Geez, while Wind was banned I forgot that he is, in fact, totally insufferable
I'm not going to lie Tig, 9/10 times you open your mouth, I'm overwhelmed with the urge to put my foot in it.
tank130 Offline
Sugar Daddy
*
Posts: 8889


« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2012, 07:45:56 am »

How is pool price calculated or measured then, unknown?

I was always under the impression that it was created under the general rule of "some guy arbitrarily set it to something and nobody important complained too much about it". Of course I might be mistaken and there is a deeply complicated multi-variate function that derives the precise values of pool cost - in which case I'd love to see it in it's majestic glory.


Close..... but not quite.

A group of 8 people discuss it based on other comparable units and values. There is no magical calculation. Just a lot of comparisons and discussion. If a mistake is made, it is reverted. If the pool is not enough, it is raised.

No conspiracies or behind the door tricks. Just a group of knowledgeable dev members making the best consensus they can.
Logged
DarkSoldierX Offline
EIR Veteran
Posts: 3015



« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2012, 09:42:52 am »

What I'm spamming is irrelevant.  The point is I filled up 3 pools and a decent amount of the 4th one and ran out of pool but still had resources.  Pool needs increased.  I shouldn't be forced into using certain units simply to fill out pool.  With the increased amount of resources the warmap induces, the pool totals need to be increased incrementally as well.
Isn't that the point of pool in the first place? To force you to use other units than the ones your spamming?

No doubt there should be some pool tweaks here and there though.
Logged

two words
atgs and fireflies
Looks who's butthurt
*waiting* 4 DarkSoldierNoobiX pops up to prove how much shit the T17 is penetrating KTs back and Jagd front and how much better the ac/puma is penetrating m10 rear  Cool Cool Cool
CrazyWR Offline
EIR Veteran
Posts: 3616


« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2012, 11:05:14 am »

Please don't derail the thread into a panther thread......

The OP states he can do this in a number of companies.



Why would we increase pool just because you have additional resources? You are not limiting your company in any way. You would be able to build this company pre warmap with advantages.

So you get some additional bonuses and can not use them with this particular build - so what? You make it sound like you are being handicapped in some way.

Crazy - you post is crazy.....

I'm not being limited?  I cannot spend all my resources because I am OUT OF POOL.  That seems limiting to me.  As it is, I changed my build and there seemed to be some sort of ninja change last night to pool values, so its fine now, but it is frustrating.  Building a commando company is the worst offender here by the way.
Logged
Spartan_Marine88 Offline
EIR Veteran
Posts: 4838



« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2012, 11:37:07 am »

Building a commando company is the worst offender here by the way.

I have nearly a pure commando company, and i have not felt this.
Logged

Yes that's me, the special snowflake.
CrazyWR Offline
EIR Veteran
Posts: 3616


« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2012, 12:18:14 pm »

I assume you use support weapons?  Try building a mando company without them?
Logged
Spartan_Marine88 Offline
EIR Veteran
Posts: 4838



« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2012, 01:02:14 pm »

I assume you use support weapons?  Try building a mando company without them?

And your assumption fails. I expect nothing less though.


Logged
tank130 Offline
Sugar Daddy
*
Posts: 8889


« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2012, 03:20:15 pm »

I'm not being limited?  I cannot spend all my resources because I am OUT OF POOL.  That seems limiting to me.  As it is, I changed my build and there seemed to be some sort of ninja change last night to pool values, so its fine now, but it is frustrating.  Building a commando company is the worst offender here by the way.

You have left over resources and no pool because the resources are now higher with the warmap. You are not limited anymore then you were for the last 1.5 to 2 years of this mod.
Logged
CrazyWR Offline
EIR Veteran
Posts: 3616


« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2012, 06:07:08 pm »

yes so if resources are now higher, should we not adjust the pool higher to adapt to the new situation?  Its not like this is a temporary thing, the warmap is here to stay as far as I know?
Logged
Spartan_Marine88 Offline
EIR Veteran
Posts: 4838



« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2012, 06:10:17 pm »

yes so if resources are now higher, should we not adjust the pool higher to adapt to the new situation?  Its not like this is a temporary thing, the warmap is here to stay as far as I know?

But most of us are able to easily work within the constraints of the system.
Logged
tank130 Offline
Sugar Daddy
*
Posts: 8889


« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2012, 11:01:17 pm »

yes so if resources are now higher, should we not adjust the pool higher to adapt to the new situation?  Its not like this is a temporary thing, the warmap is here to stay as far as I know?

NO.

It is not beneficial to the mod or game play.
Logged
Pages: [1] 2   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

TinyPortal v1.0 beta 4 © Bloc
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.9 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines LLC
Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Page created in 0.068 seconds with 35 queries.