CrazyWR
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« on: July 08, 2012, 10:23:24 pm » |
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http://s762.photobucket.com/albums/xx268/baseball0/?action=view¤t=notenoughpoolforresources.png115 MP and 195 fuel left over in a fresh defensive company placed in capital sector of warmap. I'm sure once I move to a resource sector it will be even worse. I added the 3 pumas shown in the picture at the very end because I had nothing else I could spend resources on. They don't have repairs. With the advent of the warmap, resources have gone up. Pool needs to be removed or increased to realize the new reality. Right now I can build companies like this repeatedly over several different doctrines. Its very frustrating.
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1. New tactics? it's like JAWS, first one in the water dies
RCA-land where shells fall like raindrops and the Captain is an invincible god
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Groundfire
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« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2012, 10:29:24 pm » |
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Whats the problem? Your running out of pool? When you buy expensive things like 2 panthers, you do know it is supposed to do that, right?
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aeroblade56
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« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2012, 10:32:05 pm » |
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Whats the problem? Your running out of pool? When you buy expensive things like 2 panthers, you do know it is supposed to do that, right?
Why do bars on AB rifle cost a total of 7 pool?. It doesnt make sense at all, so they drop from the sky pfft. They drop 60m from where they are supposed to. |
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You are welcome to your opinion.
You are also welcome to be wrong.
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| PonySlaystation
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« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2012, 10:32:08 pm » |
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What spam are you running?
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Sharks are not monsters Henley, they are cute, cuddly and misunderstood. They love humans. sometimes they love TOO much. They love people so much that sometimes their kisses separate people into two flailing pieces which are consumed by other sharks in a frenzy of peace and joy.
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| CrazyWR
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« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2012, 10:43:06 pm » |
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What I'm spamming is irrelevant. The point is I filled up 3 pools and a decent amount of the 4th one and ran out of pool but still had resources. Pool needs increased. I shouldn't be forced into using certain units simply to fill out pool. With the increased amount of resources the warmap induces, the pool totals need to be increased incrementally as well.
Also, Panthers are the most efficient use of my armor pool, the other tanks take up MORE munitions for an equivalent amount of pool...mostly due to the fact that Panther repair is only 60 munitions for some reason. I'd say 80 would be better, but thats not the point of this thread.
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Unkn0wn
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« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2012, 04:23:30 am » |
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Probably has to do with the panther pool increase which was a little excessive IMO
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LeoPhone
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« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2012, 05:21:28 am » |
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Probably has to do with the panther pool increase which was a little excessive IMO
why? PIV is 12 pool and 220 fuel panther is 24 pool and 450 fuel |
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Unkn0wn
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« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2012, 05:28:54 am » |
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Just because the F price is double doesn't mean the pool should be too. That's not how pool cost is measured or calculated. Let's not go into this further.
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2012, 07:39:39 am » |
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How is pool price calculated or measured then, unknown?
I was always under the impression that it was created under the general rule of "some guy arbitrarily set it to something and nobody important complained too much about it". Of course I might be mistaken and there is a deeply complicated multi-variate function that derives the precise values of pool cost - in which case I'd love to see it in it's majestic glory.
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tank130
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« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2012, 07:42:43 am » |
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Please don't derail the thread into a panther thread......
The OP states he can do this in a number of companies.
Why would we increase pool just because you have additional resources? You are not limiting your company in any way. You would be able to build this company pre warmap with advantages.
So you get some additional bonuses and can not use them with this particular build - so what? You make it sound like you are being handicapped in some way.
Crazy - you post is crazy.....
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Geez, while Wind was banned I forgot that he is, in fact, totally insufferable
I'm not going to lie Tig, 9/10 times you open your mouth, I'm overwhelmed with the urge to put my foot in it.
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tank130
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« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2012, 07:45:56 am » |
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How is pool price calculated or measured then, unknown?
I was always under the impression that it was created under the general rule of "some guy arbitrarily set it to something and nobody important complained too much about it". Of course I might be mistaken and there is a deeply complicated multi-variate function that derives the precise values of pool cost - in which case I'd love to see it in it's majestic glory.
Close..... but not quite. A group of 8 people discuss it based on other comparable units and values. There is no magical calculation. Just a lot of comparisons and discussion. If a mistake is made, it is reverted. If the pool is not enough, it is raised. No conspiracies or behind the door tricks. Just a group of knowledgeable dev members making the best consensus they can. |
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| DarkSoldierX
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« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2012, 09:42:52 am » |
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What I'm spamming is irrelevant. The point is I filled up 3 pools and a decent amount of the 4th one and ran out of pool but still had resources. Pool needs increased. I shouldn't be forced into using certain units simply to fill out pool. With the increased amount of resources the warmap induces, the pool totals need to be increased incrementally as well.
Isn't that the point of pool in the first place? To force you to use other units than the ones your spamming? No doubt there should be some pool tweaks here and there though. |
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two words
atgs and fireflies
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| CrazyWR
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« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2012, 11:05:14 am » |
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Please don't derail the thread into a panther thread......
The OP states he can do this in a number of companies.
Why would we increase pool just because you have additional resources? You are not limiting your company in any way. You would be able to build this company pre warmap with advantages.
So you get some additional bonuses and can not use them with this particular build - so what? You make it sound like you are being handicapped in some way.
Crazy - you post is crazy.....
I'm not being limited? I cannot spend all my resources because I am OUT OF POOL. That seems limiting to me. As it is, I changed my build and there seemed to be some sort of ninja change last night to pool values, so its fine now, but it is frustrating. Building a commando company is the worst offender here by the way. |
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| Spartan_Marine88
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« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2012, 11:37:07 am » |
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Building a commando company is the worst offender here by the way.
I have nearly a pure commando company, and i have not felt this. |
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Yes that's me, the special snowflake.
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| CrazyWR
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« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2012, 12:18:14 pm » |
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I assume you use support weapons? Try building a mando company without them?
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| Spartan_Marine88
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« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2012, 01:02:14 pm » |
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I assume you use support weapons? Try building a mando company without them?
And your assumption fails. I expect nothing less though. |
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tank130
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« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2012, 03:20:15 pm » |
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I'm not being limited? I cannot spend all my resources because I am OUT OF POOL. That seems limiting to me. As it is, I changed my build and there seemed to be some sort of ninja change last night to pool values, so its fine now, but it is frustrating. Building a commando company is the worst offender here by the way.
You have left over resources and no pool because the resources are now higher with the warmap. You are not limited anymore then you were for the last 1.5 to 2 years of this mod. |
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| CrazyWR
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« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2012, 06:07:08 pm » |
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yes so if resources are now higher, should we not adjust the pool higher to adapt to the new situation? Its not like this is a temporary thing, the warmap is here to stay as far as I know?
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| Spartan_Marine88
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« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2012, 06:10:17 pm » |
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yes so if resources are now higher, should we not adjust the pool higher to adapt to the new situation? Its not like this is a temporary thing, the warmap is here to stay as far as I know?
But most of us are able to easily work within the constraints of the system. |
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tank130
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« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2012, 11:01:17 pm » |
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yes so if resources are now higher, should we not adjust the pool higher to adapt to the new situation? Its not like this is a temporary thing, the warmap is here to stay as far as I know?
NO. It is not beneficial to the mod or game play. |
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