brn4meplz
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« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2012, 09:07:52 pm » |
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I suggested it at the time. House crits with a smaller Number. I think the default was like 8 or some such crazy shit. You could change it to 2-3. That way Allied squads can get hit hard(Sorry Officer types  ) But Captured Nebels will hurt Axis squads a whole lot more proportionately. |
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Smokaz
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« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2012, 09:16:52 pm » |
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Sorry officer types? What do you mean?
American officer in house is invincible already. I've had six armored cars shoot at one at the same time without dealing any damage. (Middle "big" house on the map forest)
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RikiRude
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« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2012, 09:34:45 pm » |
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how about instead of crits on houses, when it hits houses it does big fire damage, like incend nades, that way a unit that stays in the house takes pretty severe damage.
or how about upping the suppression? so infantry targets get pinned? then you can launch a pretty good attack after. this will also show its use as a terror weapon.
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brn4meplz
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« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2012, 10:13:58 pm » |
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how about instead of crits on houses, when it hits houses it does big fire damage, like incend nades, that way a unit that stays in the house takes pretty severe damage.
or how about upping the suppression? so infantry targets get pinned? then you can launch a pretty good attack after. this will also show its use as a terror weapon.
After? What do you mean After? The Friendly Fire Suppression values allow you to launch an Attack during a Nebelwerfer barrage. Thats the intention of the unit. You'll win infantry engagements pretty handily with one. |
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« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2012, 10:46:29 pm » |
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After? What do you mean After? The Friendly Fire Suppression values allow you to launch an Attack during a Nebelwerfer barrage. Thats the intention of the unit. You'll win infantry engagements pretty handily with one.
Combined arms is to much for this community to handle brn, your wasting your breath. |
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TheVolskinator
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« Reply #25 on: July 23, 2012, 11:00:27 pm » |
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Combined arms is to much for this community to handle brn, your wasting your breath.
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3rdCondor
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« Reply #26 on: July 23, 2012, 11:01:49 pm » |
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Defensive provides a few good benefits:
1) It can get you a tier 4 cloak ability for nebels (in which it can also move while cloaked).
2) It could also get you a 50% damage buff tier 3 instead
Terror grants firestorm rockets, mustard gas, and heavy support defense buffs.
Blitz doesn't provide anything terribly useful, but you get stuhs, which are way better.
I don't think it needs a buff tbh. It's just not extremely cost effective, which is a good thing. The stuka probably needs some love, but I'm not sure about the nebelwerfer. It's gonna take a lot to convince me. Probably more to convince pq
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« Reply #27 on: July 24, 2012, 12:17:38 am » |
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Nebelwerfer, no matter how much damage it gets from hits they do nothing to aid it. 50% more damage only on that little damage it does on impact. Nebelwerfer doesn't kill with direct hits like most arty, it kills with Damage over time firepools therefore 50% more damage doesn't do anything.
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TheVolskinator
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« Reply #28 on: July 24, 2012, 08:09:59 am » |
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Give it PE incendiary grenade burn pools. Boom. Done.
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Tymathee
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« Reply #29 on: July 24, 2012, 08:17:20 am » |
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nebel needs airburst rounds
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« Reply #30 on: July 24, 2012, 08:48:14 am » |
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nebel needs airburst rounds
Give it PE incendiary grenade burn pools. Boom. Done.
Airburst that leaves burn pools, done. |
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3rdCondor
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« Reply #31 on: July 24, 2012, 09:29:28 am » |
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Airburst that leaves burn pools, done.
give it original chemical fire. You know, the one that used to stay on map for 3 minutes, and your vet 3 ranger squad with full health would completely die if it retreated through it. |
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nikomas
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« Reply #32 on: October 09, 2012, 10:25:00 am » |
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Manpower: 400
Ammunition: 35
Fuel: 100
Pop: 7
Pool: 11 Has yet to see someone justify this, is it going to get changed or not? The nebelwerfer is quite the joke for it's price as it stands, I was not really kidding when I said the terror mp44 guard can regularly score more kills than the weapon itself. |
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TheIcelandicManiac
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« Reply #33 on: October 09, 2012, 10:26:30 am » |
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They could fix this by adding a Building Dam modifier or give them back Building kill crit, but the neb is still quite pathetic of a unit unless you are running Heavy support Terr or fire storm.
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nikomas
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« Reply #34 on: October 09, 2012, 10:30:34 am » |
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As someone who ran heavy support a lot, the only value you get out of there is trolling around at vet 2 with the guard having 60/50/30 LMS in range, aside from that the nebelwerfer itself was still junk. The crew would probably be more effective without the gun at that point.
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Tymathee
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« Reply #35 on: October 09, 2012, 10:48:31 am » |
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Has yet to see someone justify this, is it going to get changed or not? The nebelwerfer is quite the joke for it's price as it stands, I was not really kidding when I said the terror mp44 guard can regularly score more kills than the weapon itself.
when i was on the BT we talked about the price pretty heavily, i really expected something to be done. |
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tank130
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« Reply #36 on: October 09, 2012, 10:59:09 am » |
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It is currently being reviewed by the BT
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« Reply #37 on: October 09, 2012, 03:47:14 pm » |
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the price wont help i think, undo the changes and make it good again.
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Tymathee
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« Reply #38 on: October 09, 2012, 04:47:12 pm » |
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I was pushing on taking away the fuel cost entirely since it doesn't have much if any tank killing power and is mainly a suppression tool.
like 450mp - 80mu, priced like an expensive mortar.
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Smokaz
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« Reply #39 on: October 09, 2012, 05:29:12 pm » |
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It was neutered when it was made irrelevant vs buildings because people were getting upset that direct hits on buildings with inf inside were killing their squads, now the only way to unjunk it is firestorm T3 (very poweful) or unintended cheese like mp44s having lolrange from HS.
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