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Question: What would you upgrade veteran Riflemen with?
Upgrade w. BARs - 3 (9.7%)
Upgrade w. 3 BARs - 11 (35.5%)
Upgrade w. Grease Guns - 3 (9.7%)
Upgrade w. Bazookas - 5 (16.1%)
Upgrade w. Sticky Bombs - 9 (29%)
Total Voters: 31

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« on: September 08, 2012, 06:54:42 pm »

This is in addition to Grenades.
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« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2012, 06:58:24 pm »

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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2012, 08:02:28 pm »

Bars, how'd u get 3 bars?
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« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2012, 08:06:44 pm »

Bars, how'd u get 3 bars?
Top T3 for inf upgrades 2 > 3 bars and 4 > 6 thompsons/geaseguns... tis pretty damn brutal, as you saw last game.
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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2012, 10:46:01 pm »

Why the opposition to stickies? Yes, 3 BARs are brutal (damn deadly on a vet0 squad) but stickies are cheaper and the squad can still dish out about as much DPS as a vet0 BAR squad, with added soft AT/disabler capabilities.
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« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2012, 11:35:38 pm »

Ima blow your mind here... bars AND stickies
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« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2012, 11:52:19 pm »

Dont do Bars AND stickies AND grenades. Its just too much on too flimsy of a platform. I usually have my vetted rifles come on 2 at a time. One with 3 bars and a sticky. One with 3 bars and a grenade.
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« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2012, 12:05:21 am »

Dont do Bars AND stickies AND grenades. Its just too much on too flimsy of a platform. I usually have my vetted rifles come on 2 at a time. One with 3 bars and a sticky. One with 3 bars and a grenade.
Well all three is overkill, but a vet 2 squad can justify bars + stickies... It also depends on if they are backing up rangers or not. I guess since volski is just riflespamming I'd give them grease+stickies...

I dont really use nades myself.
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« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2012, 01:23:50 am »

I only take one upgrade at most. For me, it is evenly distributed, stickies a vet 2 priority.
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« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2012, 01:54:11 am »

tbh. vote of 2vs3 bars is kinda stupid. No one would vote for 2 bars(okay,1 guy did  Roll Eyes ) if they can have 3 for same price. It's like making post,which armor would you give to grens/storms their normal or elite?
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« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2012, 03:45:43 am »

Against a total flamer company? I'd rather have the normal armour lol.
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« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2012, 04:26:58 am »

so I guess you don't need to remove elite armor from storms,because this is clearly advantage for allies Wink ...just use flamers,dunno why is everyone bitching about storms being OP  Roll Eyes ,they are clearly UP since you can toast them quite easily,so maybe small buff for them would be nice  Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2012, 08:38:22 am »

Once again the point goes sailing over Smurf's head.

The point is not about Elite Armour for Storms.

The point is that for everything in EiRR/CoH you'll find an exception to it being great. While they are rare, there ARE situations where you'd want a seemingly less effective set up.

Why would you want 2 BAR's over 3 BAR's? Well, you'd want 2 BAR's to back up your bottom T4.
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« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2012, 09:09:39 am »

but the pool isn't about which T4 are you gonna choose,but,what would you add to rifleman. So if you have option between 2 or 3 bars,logically,everyone will take 3.

If I gave you option to upgrade your PC with 200$ or 300$ graphic card for free,it's kinda logical that most folks would take more expensive and better version of graphic card.
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« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2012, 09:13:37 am »

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« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2012, 10:44:36 am »

Why?

PSU's are cheap.

Also, you logic is like saying "Why take double schreks, you have more of a chance to give them to your enemy."
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« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2012, 11:10:18 am »

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Also, i would take the cheaper graphics card if getting the more expensive one meant i had to upgrade the power supply.

if you wanna put it this way,then smart person would take 300$ one,sell it for 250$,buy 200$ so he doesn't have to upgrade power supply,and have 50$ in his pocket.  Roll Eyes
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Also, you logic is like saying "Why take double schreks, you have more of a chance to give them to your enemy."

Well,yeah,wehr players are actually doing allies favor,since they are giving them more chance to pick up shrecks from 2x storm shrecks...dunno why is every one complaining,they should be thankful for this oportunity 
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« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2012, 11:57:50 am »

There should be an option to select "any of the above." Depending on your situation, you may want any of those choices. Stickies are obviously a big choice because of the buffs from range, but grenades/bars are good too. Grease guns are good in some situations, and benefit well from moving accuracy buffs in Infantry doc. I personally prefer grenades. The grenade is an extremely cheap solution to a problem involving support weapons, or garrisons.
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« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2012, 11:57:56 am »

this question is abit moot, concidering i put diff things on rifles depending on need, vet 2 and upwards most often than not get only stickies.
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« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2012, 09:20:19 pm »

i miss flamer rifles.
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