2v2 Forest - Better Nerf Churchills

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[aeroblade56]

Well it's still a replay.

Cause it's not. I've just uploaded it to piss XIICorps

it's a replay you uploaded to be a complete shithead. and has no good gameplay or teams.

Don't be a smartass to tank that's a guaranteed ban if i was him.

[I2ay]

Did you misplace your hat or something Tank?

[tank130]

lol

I's Christmas and all

[XIIcorps]

Yeh tank destroyers marders in lock down are going to rape churchill seeing they shoot for like 200 dmg each, and fire much faster then the churchill with the 75mm which from my checks dont recieve dmg bonus vs marder like say the croc or mk4 did.

Also I was unaware that the church tower dosent have hit box seeing as ive had tanks and arty hit it.

Learn something new EIR day alll day

[XIIcorps]

175dmg ? I knoe its something like that with TD buffs

[NightRain]

175dmg ? I knoe its something like that with TD buffs

165 lockdown non APCR, 150 non lockdown non APCR.

[rolcsika0128]

It only has 64 more health than the Sherman (700vs636)

Practically, chruchill has 900 hp, since no one is using engineers without mid t4 unless (s)he is either trolling or stupid as hell.

[XIIcorps]

Practically, chruchill has 900 hp, since no one is using engineers without mid t4 unless (s)he is either trolling or stupid as hell.

Ablative is only good for Croms and Crocs.

double T3s top and bottom are designed around the churchills giving passive buffs to inf/ plus tank shock.

even still with 900hp a Churchill don't make use of it being as slow and easy to pen by any Non HHAT
that extra 200hp is what 1.1 extra marder shots to kill it hardly game changing if you ask me

[rolcsika0128]

Ablative is only good for Croms and Crocs.

double T3s top and bottom are designed around the churchills giving passive buffs to inf/ plus tank shock.

even still with 900hp a Churchill don't make use of it being as slow and easy to pen by any Non HHAT
that extra 200hp is what 1.1 extra marder shots to kill it hardly game changing if you ask me

Don't get me wrong, I've never claimed chruchill to be a useful unit. In fact, it's an utter crap imo.

As for the 2x t3 doctrine unlocks: those seem to work well on paper ( combined force and stuff), but reality proves them to be worthless. If you go engineers, you should rely on your tanks (namely cromwells, ffs and crocs) and vehicles, so any inf buff is just pointless to take. Just use sappers with mines. Or spam marines with For The Queen ( or whatever it is called),  that can be hilarious 

[XIIcorps]

Don't get me wrong, I've never claimed chruchill to be a useful unit. In fact, it's an utter crap imo.

As for the 2x t3 doctrine unlocks: those seem to work well on paper ( combined force and stuff), but reality proves them to be worthless. If you go engineers, you should rely on your tanks (namely cromwells, ffs and crocs) and vehicles, so any inf buff is just pointless to take. Just use sappers with mines. Or spam marines with For The Queen ( or whatever it is called),  that can be hilarious 

So your agreeing that the entire doctrine is flawed ??

Because why should I have to take a single T4 to use a doctrine effectively, all should have pros and cons yet the other two only have cons.

FINALLY

[rolcsika0128]

So your agreeing that the entire doctrine is flawed ??

Because why should I have to take a single T4 to use a doctrine effectively, all should have pros and cons yet the other two only have cons.

FINALLY

Flawed? Well, probably yea.
I mean there is so much more potential in it. The mid t4 is the only good choice.

Just a few possible things to make chruchills somewhat worthy investment:

New possible t4: chruchill ( regular one) locks down sector when in hulldown, giving inf a passive buff in the entire sector ( like +15% acc, less received supression, atgs +5/10 range to protect the churchill   ---> these buffs can actually make the difference in an engagement
Or: hulldown on 0 sec recharge, when in hulldown chruchill gets a faster rate of fire + ability on recharge which gives surrounding infantry immunity to supression for like 8 sec
--> move in with churchill into enemy lines covered by cct smoke, insta hulldown and use immunity with inf to take good positions

etcetc

[XIIcorps]

Flawed? Well, probably yea.
I mean there is so much more potential in it. The mid t4 is the only good choice.

Just a few possible things to make chruchills somewhat worthy investment:

New possible t4: chruchill ( regular one) locks down sector when in hulldown, giving inf a passive buff in the entire sector ( like +15% acc, less received supression, atgs +5/10 range to protect the churchill   ---> these buffs can actually make the difference in an engagement
Or: hulldown on 0 sec recharge, when in hulldown chruchill gets a faster rate of fire + ability on recharge which gives surrounding infantry immunity to supression for like 8 sec
--> move in with churchill into enemy lines covered by cct smoke, insta hulldown and use immunity with inf to take good positions

etcetc

Some of these are similar to suggestions ive proposed in the past which fell on deaf ears.

Like the whole hulldown idea, is nice in Vcoh were you can repair while hulldown.

In EIR mobility is everything and sacrificing it is just plain silly.

I proposed in hull down tanks get ROF increase of 10-15%, yet nothing came to fruition

[GrayWolf]

If you want to buff the Churchill :

* -1s reload
* +0,5m splash

Nothing more, srsly. It's a AI tank, not a CCTrashcannon.

[NightRain]

I proposed in hull down tanks get ROF increase of 10-15%, yet nothing came to fruition

Similar to P4 IST lockdown. Not a bad idea in a sense

[TheIcelandicManiac]

If you want to buff the churchill just give it back the broken tank shock, shit was hilarious.
main cannon fire every 2 sec?
Fuck yea.

[aeroblade56]

be cool if it had a double tap ability or something.

fires 2 shots instead of 1 every minute and cost some like 100Munies or something.

[Hicks58]

Or we could do something sensible.

Like reduce it's price.

[tank130]

^^   lol

[TheIcelandicManiac]

Pffft, When has the EIR B-Team ever been know to do something sencible?

[rolcsika0128]

Or we could do something sensible.

Like reduce it's price.

I hope that's sarcasm...