XIIcorps
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« on: December 30, 2013, 08:04:13 pm » |
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ok so digging through the RGDs ive found that
British 17pdr does 150 dmg
Wher Pak 40 75mm does 187 dmg
American M5 76mm does 187.5 dmg
all the while the M1 57mm/6pdr does 150 dmg.
Please explain this ? the 17pdr only doing 6pdr dmg ? yet all other heavy atgs do 30+ more dmg
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nikomas
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« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2013, 08:13:09 pm » |
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Have you checked the penetration, you know, that other really important factor for ATG's... That aside.
17pdr, Can Buy APCR rounds Tier 1 Unlock
The Pak 40, Tier 3 unlock
The M5, Reward unit.
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XIIcorps
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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2013, 08:15:38 pm » |
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yeh but apcr on 17pdr is kinda wasted only good on the off chance you face a tiger 2 or heavier.
Also idea for heavy atgs
+5 range to make up for piss poor arc and range
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nikomas
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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2013, 08:17:42 pm » |
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You really didn't check the penetration tables did you?
The 17pdr has a 116% chance to penetrate a TIGER at long range without even using apcr rounds... what more could you want?
The 76mm M5 has a 55% chance if you need a point of reference.
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XIIcorps
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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2013, 08:36:47 pm » |
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You really didn't check the penetration tables did you?
The 17pdr has a 116% chance to penetrate a TIGER at long range without even using apcr rounds... what more could you want?
The 76mm M5 has a 55% chance if you need a point of reference.
More damage obviously |
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« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2013, 10:19:09 pm » |
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More damage obviously
You're right, clearly the 17pdr is out of line as compared to the other heavy ATG's... Thus, we should bring it's damage up and reduce the penetration to be more in line with the other heavy ATG's, for consistency if anything else. (There, you got the nerf you wanted ) |
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XIIcorps
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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2013, 10:22:10 pm » |
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You're right, clearly the 17pdr is out of line as compared to the other heavy ATG's... Thus, we should bring it's damage up and reduce the penetration to be more in line with the other heavy ATG's, for consistency if anything else. (There, you got the nerf you wanted )Nah im fine with the damage man, just give it more range to effectively dish it out. same goes for M5 76mm and Pak 40 75mm. even just 5m extra range would make all the difference |
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aeroblade56
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« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2013, 10:27:07 pm » |
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Needs speed buff is all. the pak40 moves faster than it
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XIIcorps
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« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2013, 10:36:18 pm » |
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Needs speed buff is all. the pak40 moves faster than it
but im sure niko will point out Pak 40 has less pen vs tiger at range so is fine k |
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« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2013, 06:07:53 am » |
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but im sure niko will point out Pak 40 has less pen vs tiger at range so is fine k
You know, ever heard of backdraws? That if you specialize in one thing other skills may suffer? |
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XIIcorps
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« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2013, 06:32:08 am » |
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You know, ever heard of backdraws? That if you specialize in one thing other skills may suffer?
like the maus .... |
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Shabtajus
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« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2013, 06:36:42 am » |
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like the maus ....
sup with maus? its shitty unit anyway, to ez mode play vs it, dodge it dont fight |
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« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2013, 06:41:59 am » |
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reward units are immune to balance.
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Hicks58
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« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2013, 08:00:56 am » |
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reward units are immune to balance.
You're right. Niko, put the 75mm Sherman gun back on the Chaffee. |
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I mean I know Obama was the first one in EiR to get a card. and tbfh the Race card is pretty OP. but Romney has the K.K.K., those guys seem to camo anywhere. So OP units from both sides.
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Shabtajus
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« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2013, 08:28:38 am » |
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how much better anti tank abilities get sherman after buying upgun and adding HVAP?
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Hicks58
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« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2013, 10:06:13 am » |
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Not enough to have it take on anything it couldn't take on before.
It makes pairs of Upgunned Shermans pretty nasty, but running a pair of Shermans only ever happens if you're running a Sherman spam company.
Which is rare.
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Shabtajus
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« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2013, 11:23:24 am » |
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Ma question here is it worth to buy upgun for hvap shermies or not? Do upgun and hvap stats stacks?
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Hicks58
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« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2013, 11:59:44 am » |
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HVAP ONLY works on upgun for Shermans.
It does not work for base 75mm Shermans.
It could be made to work for them, but the improvement would be so minor that you'd never notice it in combat.
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