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[CrazyWR]

I'd like to propose lowering the fuel cost on this from 220 to say...140 or 150.  Right now, 220 fuel can get you 4 armored cars or a marder and an upgun hotchkiss, or a bunch of other stuff.  I realize we can't make it too cheap, but I think lowering the price by 70-80 fuel would be reasonable.  150 would make it a tradeoff for another Marder or 2 AC's an an IHT(145), or something similar.  Thats a tough decision, but still would allow people to use the Berge more often without allowing them to field a ton more stuff.  220 makes it very hard to shoehorn into a company...

[NightRain]

To be fair, berge is quite underwhelming unit. Such a expensive pop on field even for nearly limitless repairs.

[CrazyWR]

Myst, any thoughts on this?

[Mysthalin]

I don't think reducing it's cost is going to help much - at the end of the day it is still 6 popcap on the field that is not exactly easy to keep, and attempting to repair anything more pop-intensive than a hotchkiss is just asking for horrible trouble on the frontlines (which you need to hold to be able to use the unit and have a very hard time doing as PE).

Reducing it's pop might seem like a solution, but then we're going to have some hilarity when 1 player brings a tiger while another just protects it with 3 berges worth of steel wall. Funny, but not exactly what we should be striving for.

I think increasing the repair speed (massively) is an idea worth having and investigating, in all fairness.

[CrazyWR]

There still won't be room to fit it into a PE company man.

[Mysthalin]

The problem is less about fitting it in and more about it not doing much once on the field, I do believe. The price could use a look at, but it won't make the unit worthwhile on its own.

[Smokaz]

Why not just make it a continously repair a targeted vehicle? We've seen that the current line of thought doesn't work, so a small change within the small parameter will produce zero excitement.

[CrazyWR]

Personally I think it does fine once it is on the field, it is just too expensive to purchase right now with the fuel nerfs that have hit PE.

[XIIcorps]

Unlimited repairs in a limited repair environment, im sorry but that in itself is a rather powerful ability.

granted the berge being a support vech could use a reduced fuel cost and increased munitions cost, just becuase of the PE fuel constraints.

[TheIcelandicManiac]

What about mixing it in with its old ability?
making it so that it grants a small change to retain dead units?

[CrazyWR]

What about mixing it in with its old ability?
making it so that it grants a small change to retain dead units?

this is not a good thing.  Having to re-kill axis super heavies is not a good thing.  Once a unit is dead, it should stay dead.  I firmly believe a reduced fuel cost is all this unit needs to see an uptick in use.  If after that is implemented, it still isn't used, then maybe look at it again.