PE Balance and doctrine discussion

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[koimn6]

57's are only 5 pop and thus spammable, I suggest an increase to 7.

The marder and the 50 mm's are PE's Anti tank guns, They are fine the way they are, Yes they are spammable yes they are fairly quick, But they have no turret to really take advantage of their speed, No armor or health to speak off and cant be recrewed, If anything marders and 50mm's should be cheaper than the allied equivalents, As you cannot recrew them.

comparing ATG and marder is quite useless, cus ATG have no mobility.
marder always can run away when they want

[XIIcorps]

57's are only 5 pop and thus spammable, I suggest an increase to 7.

The marder and the 50 mm's are PE's Anti tank guns, They are fine the way they are, Yes they are spammable yes they are fairly quick, But they have no turret to really take advantage of their speed, No armor or health to speak off and cant be recrewed, If anything marders and 50mm's should be cheaper than the allied equivalents, As you cannot recrew them.

No 50mm HTs are atg equivalents, marders are in a league of their own, no atg has lockdown or can chase down a retreating vehicle

[Korpisolttu]

50mm HTs are totally fine compared to marders. 50mm HTs can't do much against heavies without APCR. Marder's lockdown is what makes it powerfull when used judiciously. Still both of them are slow to accelerate and turn on rough terrain so flanks are particularly dangerous for them + they're fragile and gets destroyed fast.

[Hicks58]

With 50% deflection they still do quite a number on Heavies.

This. People don't seem to realise that you can literally bounce targets to death due to ATG/50mm HT's and their 50% bounce damage. That's 61-75 damage per bounce depending on the weapon in question, which sure as hell adds up.

[crimsonrabbit]

Perhaps a single 50mmHT may be ineffective, but double 50mmHTs can keep it backing up given the right opportunity. Heavies will require extra AT to take down regardless.

[XIIcorps]

Perhaps a single 50mmHT may be ineffective, but double 50mmHTs can keep it backing up given the right opportunity. Heavies will require extra AT to take down regardless.

+1 quite a few times ive lost tanks due to double 50s backing up, because eveytime you issue a move command to your tank its targeting priorities reset.

[EliteGren]

What happened to the Luftwaffe MG34?

also WTF crimsonrabbit is back