If you had to pick a World War Two weapon to fight with?(Infantry)

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[Exed]

Sten.

[Thtb]

mp40 r sturm geweher depending on situation.

[acker]

The Russians didn't "rip it off". The actions/mechanisms for the two guns are quite different. I'm willing to bet that they were independently conceived.

I would never choose the MP40 over the Thompson. Firstly, the Thompson fires .45 ACP, which is a big bonus. Secondly, the MP40's single-stack magazine had lips that were easily compressible, which led to jamming (much like the Sten).

There's a couple other reasons, but I can't be bothered to look them up. By the way, every veteran that I've heard on the various WWII forums has hated the Sten with a passion. Something about "It fires if you drop it, and it jams"...


What troubles me is that the Kar is more highly rated than the Garand, though the Stg44's rating is understandable...yes...I'm almost sure of it.

The Kar's rating is directly related to the chronic "lack of Allied players" threads, which is directly related to the 250:750 score, which is directly related to the overwhelming number of Axis players...

This forum has an pro-Axis bias (not Nazi, Axis). Either that, or people play too much COD:3 and DOD.

Well...maybe it's the latter. After all, the Einfield was only voted on once compared to the Kar, and the Einfield is better in almost all respects.

[[AB]RikiRude]

Sten.

Can you please provide the reason why you would use the sten? It was probably one of the worst mass used guns of WWII.

They were made of cheap stamped metal, tended to jam due to the side mounted magazine, horribly inaccurate, and the side mounted magazine would get in the way.

Among the more common choices I would choose the M-1 garand. It's dove tail sight works great, they don't jam, are easy to fire and load, and i know how to use them!

[Migi]

I used to talk alot with my grandfather who was a WW2 vet, with a Expert Qualification Badge. He was in both the European front and the Asian front, he carried an M1 Carbine from the very first time he ever fired one (I learned how to squeeze a trigger from him while sitting on his lap at around 6 with his M1 Carbine).

The Carbines' ease orf reload and larger magizine and increased rate of fire vs the Garand, with less recoil, lighter weight and effective 300-400 yard range made it the ultimate infantry rifle. He carried his at the Battle of the Bulge where it proved to be an all weather weapon as well. He carried this same rifle all the way through the Korean conflict.

[Exed]

Ahh. Sorry, I was thinking about the Sten when I wrote that. I'd actually use the M3 Grease Gun.

[Akranadas]

Own Sub-Machine Gun because it was Australian made.

[Niichts]

Kar 98K was always my favorite...
And with a scope.

I must say, anything other then a Heavy machine gun (mg42 ect ect...)
How big of a target would you be? xD

[[AB]RikiRude]

Own Sub-Machine Gun because it was Australian made.

I completely neglected Australian small arms, glad someone didn't!

[Rahx]

M1Garand, is my favourite... sounds so good to me  *Bang bang , Ping?*

FG42 is a great weapon though ...

[supahpingi]

I picked the 30.cal.
I just being a support gunner
And i always liked dunlop,whos loading the weapon(dunlop,Get that weapon loaded)

[|-|Cozmo|-|]

Lee enfield... With a scope.

[Thtb]

If scopes are around i take a Mosin Nagot with one

[Duvka]

Mosin Nagant. Most friendly iron sight.

[UnLimiTeD]

Well, a year later or with better logistics, the STG44 would be by far the superior weapon.
But At the end of the war, resources ran out, there was a shortage of ammunition and the gun was not to be used in Autofire mode as of it's jamming possibility.
Due to material shortage, it was made of stamped steel parts, so it could NOT be repaired, if it jammed several times, the gun was scrapmetal.
For an allied weapon I would definately take the M1 Carbine, the Garand is a fair gun, but only 8 shots, trouble with reloading when the clip was half empty, and higher weight disqualify it against the Carbine.

I voted FG42, as it was even better than the Carbine, even counting the recoil.
AND it used common rifle rounds, so ammunition was no problem, while it could be repaired in battle.
G43 would have been an option as well.
BTW, the AK47s inner mechanics were designed by russians, but they took the Stg44 as a base for the outer shell, which means magazine, barrel and such, so they didn't need to test it anymore.
The AK47s mechanics prooved to be far more reliable than the german guns.

And I would not vote for Japanese SMGs, the Type 100 for exsample was extremely reliable and because of the high quality materials (chromesteel..)
nearly indestructible, but based of the german MP18 and completely underpowered.
Their rilfes are great, but I don't know their names and cant vote them here .
We should add to the "who am I"-Threads things like 'weapon of preference'  

[Ftp]

I would have to say the grand. My friend father has 2 of them and we went out and shot them. Boy they have some nice kick back but if u know what ur doing the are accurate as what.

[They Call Me SpitFire]

The votes are quite understandable so far, but the SturmGeweher is an okay gun, but did you guys hear they try to put a curved barrel on it so they could shoot around corners, imagine the flaws there.

[PrydainAllies]

Can you please provide the reason why you would use the sten? It was probably one of the worst mass used guns of WWII.

They were made of cheap stamped metal, tended to jam due to the side mounted magazine, horribly inaccurate, and the side mounted magazine would get in the way.

It was more accurate than the MP40, it also have single shot which was a huge advantage over the MP40. Don't be fooled into thinking the Sten was utter crap, otherwise they would have kept using the Thomson or designed another easy to manufacture SMG.

The Stens I have held and reviewed where actually sturdy although very rough. The Germans produced the MP3008 which was basicaly a Sten with a different magazine mount configuration. The band wagon that Stens where just utter shite is just not ture, if it did break and fire when dropped as much as people make out then it would have been replaced.

Edit: I would have a No4 Mk1, mad minuets is where its at. Or a fixed FG42 if I was German, it would have been uber but fired when dropped because of its internal parts and would have been shit hard to clean.

[Migi]

The votes are quite understandable so far, but the SturmGeweher is an okay gun, but did you guys hear they try to put a curved barrel on it so they could shoot around corners, imagine the flaws there.

They did put a curved barrel on a version, a military aircraft and machine gun museum here in the Phoenix area has one. It can only fire ball amunition, it was desingned for firing out tank ports to clean off allied GIs. I dont beleive it was ever mass produced.

[They Call Me SpitFire]

Yeah it was quite interesting, I head the first tried it with normal ammunition and it blew up in their face,(so I heard)