Aggamemnon
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« Reply #80 on: July 16, 2008, 09:30:03 am » |
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I'm working on getting this today. Can anyone confirm if it uses HP (most guns will kill anything, given enough ammo/time) or if it's the same as Heroes where certain guns will never hurt certain armour types (IE, real penetration values, and ammo types)
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« Last Edit: July 16, 2008, 09:43:43 am by Aggamemnon »
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The German Guy
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« Reply #81 on: July 16, 2008, 10:26:43 am » |
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Mix, actually.
Some guns will never ever penetrate some tanks, even some AT guns of small caliber can not dmg a king tiger for example, but if the gun can penetrate a very very high amount of hits will kill it, for example a Bazooka can penetrate the kt in the ass and will most likely kill it, but cant penetrate it in the front.
While i messed around in the editor i found out that a KT can be killed by bazookas, if you shoot around 50-70 rockets into its front armor, this propatly does actually represent the lose of armor from the ton of explosions.
Mod´s may chance this, in BTRH a suart or Tetarch can penetrate the rear of a Tiger, in desert War, shermans or bigger tanks can ONLY penetrate the Rear of a Tiger I (witch costs a ton more than they do anyway)
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« Last Edit: July 16, 2008, 10:31:29 am by Thtb »
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« Reply #82 on: July 16, 2008, 10:30:12 am » |
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lol 50-70 rockets wow well heh. I'm going to really give it a try today. I've just looked at it the last two days to get a feel and played the tourial. Even though I got it "hacked" i'm buying it as well so i dont feel guilty lol
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« Reply #83 on: July 16, 2008, 10:46:18 am » |
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This game is a blast, and I love desert war for its balance, when played on normal resourcing and a longer time period the games are very tactical. I also love popping axis tanks with my crusaders, and matildas  . Infantry combat is very fast and unpolished, but then again what about war is? Only thing I see them lacking is there AI for the RTS component. |
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I will hide this........giant gun.
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The German Guy
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« Reply #84 on: July 16, 2008, 10:47:32 am » |
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Well if you run your coverless rifle man in one blob over the desert, my mg has happy fun time.
Its not all that forgiveing.
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« Reply #85 on: July 16, 2008, 10:47:48 am » |
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Yeah i've noticed that. You have to do lots of micro but the game is made for that, I love being able to directly control certain units and the E4E mod is really cool.
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« Reply #86 on: July 16, 2008, 10:50:11 am » |
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Love the ppl how cry that they units are not doing what they want  Controle them yourself then or set them to hold position ;P |
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« Reply #87 on: July 16, 2008, 10:52:00 am » |
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yea i could never get them to listen to me, i say go over there, they give me a virtual middle finger and throw a AT nade at some guy.
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« Reply #88 on: July 16, 2008, 10:54:19 am » |
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Witch killed half of my blob btw and they where on move at will.
When they are at move at will (default) they will engage enemys that are close and retreat when they come under heavy fire. Also all inf will take cover when under heavy fire and jump to get out of grenades.
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« Reply #89 on: July 16, 2008, 10:55:07 am » |
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taht's bullcrap. The AI is nowhere near as sensitive as that.
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« Reply #90 on: July 16, 2008, 10:57:50 am » |
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Start Fow-ed.exe (Editor, you might have to download it, i dont remember if i did).
Load any map, place a blob A on place A and blob B on place B, select them, switch player to player 1 and 2 and hit START down right.
Now watch closely.
AI will however first execute whatever retarded order you gave them before they do that. Thats why i just move em from cover to cover then let them handle themself.
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« Reply #91 on: July 16, 2008, 10:58:14 am » |
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i just hate the bit where is automatically makes groups out of what you select and that if you select the *leader* you select he whole team... i want to ONLY create teams manually (like in CoH - with a hotkey number), and if i select a single man i expect to only control that single man.
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« Reply #92 on: July 16, 2008, 10:59:33 am » |
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i just hate the bit where is automatically makes groups out of what you select and that if you select the *leader* you select he whole team... i want to ONLY create teams manually (like in CoH - with a hotkey number), and if i select a single man i expect to only control that single man.
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why is everyone except me retarded? |
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« Reply #93 on: July 16, 2008, 11:03:52 am » |
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Turn it off in options, duh?
It has its advantage that way you can rambo with 1 guy and the rest keeps up and gives covering fire.
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« Reply #94 on: July 16, 2008, 11:14:48 am » |
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you can turn that off?! fuck yes!
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« Reply #95 on: July 16, 2008, 12:02:08 pm » |
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Well, i just got back from vacation. Glad so many people are getting the game. now I need a gfx card.  |
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« Reply #96 on: July 16, 2008, 04:18:11 pm » |
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Turn it off in options, duh?
It has its advantage that way you can rambo with 1 guy and the rest keeps up and gives covering fire.
Holy cow... havent noticed that ... |
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« Reply #97 on: July 16, 2008, 04:42:40 pm » |
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Yeah ppl start the game and are like; This one thing is annoying me, lets throw away this shit game ffs!
Without giveing it any chance or looking into it...
-Bazookas vs KT attached - Ingame screenshots always have a very strange look to them ...
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« Reply #98 on: July 17, 2008, 04:14:31 am » |
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Well, I played it yesterday... GODDAMN what an awesome game, still not through the first real german campaign, it's pretty hard, but it's great!
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« Reply #99 on: July 17, 2008, 04:32:51 am » |
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It's great indeed.
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