Petition to give the PE mortar halftrack smoke rounds

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[Smokaz]

I think its just passivity from relic that this has never been patched in. All mortars in game in addition to some tanks get smoke rounds, but not the mortar halftrack. This could tremendously help PE against two types of targets which they easily can get problems with:

- Emplacements (Smoke in front of it, throw at nades)
- Mgs/infantry in buildings

They dont have any flamers but this could at least help g43 panzergrens storm into cities to get buildings without taking too much fire or throw incendaries without taking so much damage/supression from garrisoned weapons. It could also be used to help their frail halftracks to get where they want against an excess of AT

[Nanaki]

Actually, I think it is an OF thing. British Mortar Commandos/Mortar Trenches do not get smoke rounds either.

[Smokaz]

 

Commando mortar gets smoke, so it has nothing to do with OF.

[TheDeadlyShoe]

I don't think mortar commandos get a smoke bombardment actually. Though it's been ages since I've played commandos. Brits do get smoke grenades on riflenade squads, which are damn useful.

[Mysthalin]

Mortar mandoz get a smoke fire up, but no smoke barrage. Brits had smoke from :
CCT
Mando self-smoke
Rifle Nades

Brit Mortars and PE mortar HT need smoke too .

[CafeMilani]

Mortar mandoz get a smoke fire up, but no smoke barrage. Brits had smoke from :
CCT
Mando self-smoke
Rifle Nades

Brit Mortars and PE mortar HT need smoke too .

no brit mortars mustnt get smoke, that would make blob unstoppable! u can only stop them with HMGs atm but only if the LT is not on vet1-.-

[Leafedge]

Edit: Ugh, wrong thread.

[NightRain]

I'd like to see the smoke as well, it is useful tool for PE since they lack of it. They are like Russians that must charge a MG without any cover ability xD

Smoke would make PE a tad bit stronger- nowadays 1 MG with AP rounds kinda stops them there....

Would it be possible to replace the Flame grenade to a normal handgrenade? I mean only use I've found for incindiary nade is to clear trentches in VCoH (which kinda makes Brits to just insta delete the trentch and walk away) vs good players it is useless little annoyance... xD especially if there's a triage behind the MG building

[Mysthalin]

simple nades are dodgeable just like the incendiary nades. If you throw in an incendiary nade in a building, the building is rendered unusable for the duration of the engagement. If you throw a nade in, the enemy can pop out and back in, so you only do damage if the enemy is a retard(just like the incendiary), but incendiaries at least grant area denial.

[Smokaz]

Replacing their nades arent neccessary as the incendary nade is most likely getting a small price reduction (5-10 munitions) from what I've heard since its so hard to get any kills out of your incendaries. Its semi useful to throw on at guns to damage the weapon, but as for countering .30 cals it is very weak because of the many stone/good houses in EIRR.

[DemonicTruism]

simple nades are dodgeable just like the incendiary nades. If you throw in an incendiary nade in a building, the building is rendered unusable for the duration of the engagement. If you throw a nade in, the enemy can pop out and back in, so you only do damage if the enemy is a retard(just like the incendiary), but incendiaries at least grant area denial.

Or you can ignore the incendiary grenade, take half damage on a squad and win the engagement.

[Mysthalin]

Or if I see you're being a retard and staying in flames I'll just outshoot you easily by getting into light/heavy cover or as much as get out of red cover, and win easily. G43s do awesome damage vs units in houses, and the Kar 98 ain't too shabby either. The incendiary grenade would pretty much kill you(or at least set you to 25 percent health if you're in a "good" house - only buildings to ignore incendiaries. nade are the church/chateaux) even without any "extra" damage provided by the weapons on the squad. It's not like the uber fail Anti-Building-Nade, it actualy does something.
And tell me this - when was the last time you saw 2 Pzgren squads together, and how often do you see just 1 coming to fight you? Two inc. nades into  your building at once and epic win ensues.

[RikiRude]

I think there needs to be some kind of draw back to MHTs if they get smoke rounds, I mean MHT are already incredibly deadly, what I am thinking is something a little outside the box, why not give say the vampire HT the ability to call in a smoke barrage to make it a little bit more multi purpose, just like how the MHT is more multi purpose with its mine and goliath laying abilities.

[brn4meplz]

I think there needs to be some kind of draw back to MHT... I mean MHT are... it a little bit more multi purpose, just like how the MHT is more multi purpose with its mine and goliath laying abilities.

First off using the same acronym to describe 2 different things is Fail

And I'd take smoke rounds on anything. Smoke is so vital. I even mentioned it before and people chastised me for saying that Incendiary rounds were way better then smoke... fools.

[Scyn]

As long as the smoke would cost munitions I'm all for it, since a MHT can be extremely annoying and deadly in the right hands.

[EliteGrens]

Mortar pit can also be very annoying and deadly in the right hands.
In fact, every unit can be very annoying and deadly in the right hands.

[Scyn]

Was just a point to say that the MHT is far from worthless.

[31stPzGren]

In fact, every unit can be very annoying and deadly in the right hands.

If you can show me how you can make Kettenkrad extremely deadly, I would love to see it. I can totally understand how annoying it can be however.

[Akranadas]

You could use it to block tanks.

[RikiRude]

I think there needs to be some kind of draw back to MHT... I mean MHT are... it a little bit more multi purpose, just like how the MHT is more multi purpose with its mine and goliath laying abilities.

First off using the same acronym to describe 2 different things is Fail

haaahahah! oh man, so true, im sorry about that, i deserve a captain john luc for that.

for those that didnt feel like deciphering my horrible acronyms...

I think there needs to be some kind of draw back to Mortar HTs if they get smoke rounds, I mean Mortar HT are already incredibly deadly, what I am thinking is something a little outside the box, why not give say the vampire HT the ability to call in a smoke barrage (that costs munitions, with an appropriate cool down) to make it a little bit more multi purpose, just like how the Muni HT is more multi purpose with its mine and goliath laying abilities.