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Question: pak poll
should be able to cloak always
should stay as it is
price decrease

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CafeMilani Offline
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« on: May 04, 2009, 08:07:08 am »

dont want to post in pak first strike thread again.

so now u nerfed the pak, why does it still cost 30MUN and 20 MP more than an atgun?
the pak was never uber so it should get a slight price decrease
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Mgallun74 Offline
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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2009, 08:08:35 am »

they nerfed it? what did they do?
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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2009, 08:16:59 am »

they nerfed it? what did they do?


...u cant move/turn it anymore without uncloaking it.
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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2009, 08:17:44 am »

Actually I agree the PAK's higher cost was there to reflect its cloak ability, now that it is not as prevalent as it was before perhaps a price decrease is in order to reflect its new only defensive roll? Not to mention that it will be off mapped to kingdom come now.
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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2009, 08:22:11 am »

they nerfed it? what did they do?


...u cant move/turn it anymore without uncloaking it.


well, thats realistic now isnt it!  lol.. good call imho.  no more walking between a  few infantry, hmg guards, to sneak up behind my sherman hiding in town and start shooting it..

now they just need to do it to the other cloaking dudes... cloak while not moving, but if moving uncloak.. then we all good..
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Bubz Offline
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« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2009, 08:24:02 am »

What's the point in nerfing a unit if then you are going to buff it deacreasing the price...  Huh
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« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2009, 08:32:12 am »

So your saying that the PAK sould have a higher cost than its effectiveness? Fine don't decrease the price of the PAK increase the cost of all ATG's.

What is the sence in that? Huh
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« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2009, 08:34:19 am »

A definent price decrease is in order if they are going to keep it like this.
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CafeMilani Offline
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« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2009, 08:35:35 am »

What's the point in nerfing a unit if then you are going to buff it deacreasing the price...  Huh

as i said, it was NEVER OPed so it should get a price decreace!

it actually does lesss dmg than an ATGun
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« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2009, 08:38:14 am »

well, thats realistic now isnt it!  lol.. good call imho.  no more walking between a  few infantry, hmg guards, to sneak up behind my sherman hiding in town and start shooting it..

now they just need to do it to the other cloaking dudes... cloak while not moving, but if moving uncloak.. then we all good..
This. And it's more costly cause you can cloak everytime you want, not like limited uses of AP rounds for 50 MU...
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« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2009, 08:42:09 am »

What are you talking about dude? Are you suggesting that the PAK was under priced before the patch? How come no one mentioned it?

Now that the weapon is less effective it needs a price adjustment. Bottom line.
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« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2009, 08:44:39 am »

It doesnīt, it can still cloak anywhere but you canīt move it forward without LOS or infantry anymore, thatīs all.
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« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2009, 08:45:30 am »

What are you talking about dude? Are you suggesting that the PAK was under priced before the patch? How come no one mentioned it?

Now that the weapon is less effective it needs a price adjustment. Bottom line.


well i guess the wont change it back so it must get a price decrease.

the point is, when a sherman flank and u turn ur pak, the sherman retreats, calls a strafe or any other arty (remember, allies have fucking much)
its dead-->free way for the sherman
it had cloak for a reason killer.
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Mgallun74 Offline
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« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2009, 08:50:34 am »

LMFAO.. lol, one of their klingon bird of preys gets a bit nerfed and they freak out!!! lol... welcome to half of the world of using 57mm lol..
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« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2009, 08:51:29 am »

It doesn´t, it can still cloak anywhere but you can´t move it forward without LOS or infantry anymore, that´s all.


Exactly, less effective, thus price adjustment.

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Mgallun74 gee dude I never noticed the 57mm costing the same as a PAK before.....
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« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2009, 09:20:36 am »

pak damage: 115
atgun damage: 150

just change it back
(a panther has almost same hp like the sherman)
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« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2009, 09:20:52 am »

Reflect on what I said, the pak38mm was too powerful so they could decide to a) increase the price b) nerf it in stats, since they wanted to nerf the stat it's pointless to buff the pak38mm decreasing its price, because the aim of the change was nerfing the gun, thus now it has the same price as the old more effective one but less effectiveness: nerf successful. If they nerf the stats but decrease the price no nerf has been done because the general effectiveness of the gun/guns is the same.
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« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2009, 09:22:47 am »

lol too powerful...u dont know anything about stats.
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« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2009, 09:24:24 am »

and you are a troll
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« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2009, 09:32:39 am »

Price Decrease Probubly in order, It wasn't a godly weapon before, and Mgallon if you had paks infiltrating your lines worse than Shrecked storm troopers, you have serious problems in the first place. 

Sure pak scouting didn't make much sence, but it was always very risky proposition. 

Personnaly, I'll get used to the new paks either way, but it couldn't hurt for them to be cheaper, but we should probubly wait untill they FINISH nerfing/fixing the pak before you start raging again. 

It may be able to rotate while cloaked soon enough and then they'll figure out if it gets three shots while cloaked or not after that and so forth. 

For now, just be calm.

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