Flames + Sniper vs units in HTs

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[RikiRude]

Do flames do less damage and how come I can't snipe units in PE HTs? Doesn't make any sense. I mean I know teh vcoh double sniper problem was bad, but taking away the ability to snipe them all together while in a HT is dumb, they can shoot back! Unless these issues have been fixed last tiem I ran across this problem.

[Scyn]

Flames do quite a lot of damage, certain armor types are less susceptible to flame damage, but quite a few armor types can be easily inflicted with critical damage from a flamethrower(when you see units running around on fire).

As for the sniper question, I've noticed that problem a while back, the only explanation I can give you is that the PE IHT should provide shielding to units inside, you can't snipe units out of Wehr IHTs, Amer HTs, or bren carriers. I see no reason why it should be any different against PE units.

[Malevolence]

Flames do the same amount of damage as always - but flamers rely on critical tables to kill, and while their critical tables are quite nasty, their damage is not. Therefore pairing them with another unit results in the most usefulness.

[Two]

Is it just me or are the stats different on pio and engie flamers? Pios flamer seems so much more effective.

[brn4meplz]

The flamers have identical stats(vCoH anyway) What your probably noticing is that their under health rifle squads from a mortar shell or an MG42 or something like that and they got pushed into the yellow health zone. Which gives a 40% chance of the unit dying outright. So with a 6 man squad your going to notice more torched corpses then with a 4 man grenadier squad.

[RikiRude]

Sniper should kill units in a PE HT because it's open top, same should go for bren carrier, especially since the units can shoot out, it shouldn't be a problem as they can drive right up to the sniper.

And maybe I just had bad luck with my flame engs, but I swear they did next to nothing when attacking some schreck PG in a MG HT when before flames... wait a minute, I think it's because of the armor change on PG, it has nothing to do with the HT itself doh! 

[Tymathee]

yeah, old iht could get flamed but i think the new one can't.

but all handheld flame throwers are the same.

[AmPM]

My Croc kills entire squads in one flame burst sometimes.

[Bubz]

Please fix the crit table for flame engineers, it's the tenth time they explode at full healt...

[CafeMilani]

Please fix the crit table for flame engineers, it's the tenth time they explode at full healt...

that often happens in a pioflamer vs engieflamer duel, i love that even when its my pio

[Baine]

Please fix the crit table for flame engineers, it's the tenth time they explode at full healt...

Well that's the downside of the flamers.

[VariantThirteen]

Sniper should kill units in a PE HT because it's open top, same should go for bren carrier, especially since the units can shoot out, it shouldn't be a problem as they can drive right up to the sniper.

Yes, it is a problem, because it punishes the use of these units as transports, which is what I believe they should be encouraged to be used as - not IFVs.

[Tymathee]

Please fix the crit table for flame engineers, it's the tenth time they explode at full healt...

lol it happens, they have a tank full of gasoline basically, what do you think happens if a bullet ha ppens to hit it? it 'plodes!

[Unkn0wn]

Has to do with the IHT armour change I believe.

[Two]

The flamers have identical stats(vCoH anyway) What your probably noticing is that their under health rifle squads from a mortar shell or an MG42 or something like that and they got pushed into the yellow health zone. Which gives a 40% chance of the unit dying outright. So with a 6 man squad your going to notice more torched corpses then with a 4 man grenadier squad.

Nope, most the time i attack its full health squads and they just burst into flames non stop when using the pio's, yet if i was to use engies id be standing around for 5 mins spraying flames on them hoping i crit