Piotrskivich
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« on: May 07, 2009, 08:27:14 am » |
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First off, the American demo doesn't work. When I tell my engies to pit it on a building they just go inside and sit.
Second, as Wehr I seem to have problems buying goliaths, often I have plenty of munitions but the goliath is red so I cannot get it. I can provide a screen of this if needed.
And third, when you buy mines are you supposed to get 2 or 1? Because I thought I got 2 once and then never got 2 after that.
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2009, 08:29:39 am » |
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u get 1mine on pios, 2mines on engies which is crap
pios and engies should get 2mines for 40 mun
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Unkn0wn
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« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2009, 08:33:03 am » |
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The reason why pios only get 1 mine is because they're 2 pop, in a defensive game you could effectivelly be fielding 12 pioneer squads = 12 mines. If they had double that'd be 24 mines to spam, + 12 goliaths. This was abused extensively in the past, quite a successful grieving tactic.
3 pop engineers = 8 engineer squads x 2 mines = 16.
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| Piotrskivich
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« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2009, 08:34:58 am » |
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Thanks for the clarification.
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2009, 08:45:43 am » |
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8 pios are limit.
mines on all 8 would cost 8*40 = 320 mun (if mines would cost 40mun ofc) + your 8 goliaths (rofl) are 720 (ROFL)
so who would spend this on 8 pios? nobody.
i think its not fair giving pios only 1 mine because they have 1 pop less..u could make them more expensive.. like 40mun for 2 mines..
btw, i think about this everytime i upgrade a pio with a mine..
think like this unknown
2 pios = 4pop = 2 mines cost: 220mp 30mun
1engie = 3pop = 2 mines cost: 120 mp 35mun
I'd rather get engies than pios. everyone else too i guess
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| BigDick
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« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2009, 08:49:31 am » |
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The reason why pios only get 1 mine is because they're 2 pop, in a defensive game you could effectivelly be fielding 12 pioneer squads = 12 mines. If they had double that'd be 24 mines to spam, + 12 goliaths. This was abused extensively in the past, quite a successful grieving tactic.
3 pop engineers = 8 engineer squads x 2 mines = 16.
12 pios start callin = fail 12x110MP = 1320MP = wasted |
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Unkn0wn
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« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2009, 08:51:21 am » |
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8 pios are limit. There's no such thing as a limit. And I'm talking about the days before we had availability. Let's play a game sometime, I'll bring 24 mines and 12 goliaths and if you do not cry/bitch/moan 15 minutes into the game, you'll get a special prize. |
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| 31stPzGren
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« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2009, 08:57:46 am » |
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This was abused extensively in the past, quite a successful grieving tactic.
3 pop engineers = 8 engineer squads x 2 mines = 16.
You meant it was used rather successfully on you lol. Pioneer w/ mines won't cause that "spam" that you think it would because now its on reinforcement mode. You need to be beaten back really badly, to allow an enemy to put mines at critical locations without you seeing it. Play more. |
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AmPM
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« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2009, 10:04:04 am » |
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Ah my good ol' Terror company.
24 mines, 8 goliaths, 2 hmg bunkers + TT and wire....basically lock a flank and call it a day.
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« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2009, 10:32:04 am » |
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This was abused extensively in the past, quite a successful grieving tactic.
3 pop engineers = 8 engineer squads x 2 mines = 16.
You meant it was used rather successfully on you lol. Pioneer w/ mines won't cause that "spam" that you think it would because now its on reinforcement mode. You need to be beaten back really badly, to allow an enemy to put mines at critical locations without you seeing it. Play more. No, this has nothing to do with me. It's a change made by Ucross back in the very old days of EIR. And yes, it doesn't take a genius to realise it won't work on R+. |
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| Piotrskivich
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« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2009, 10:37:28 am » |
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A played axis with a guy who had like 8 goliaths on his second call in.
Each pretty much killed stuff.
2 took down a vet 3 calli
1 took out a stuart
and i wasn't watching the rest.
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| VariantThirteen
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« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2009, 11:11:08 am » |
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Improve mining capabilities for tactical diversity <_< - - - >_>
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| Igawa
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« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2009, 11:25:27 am » |
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Lmao AmPm i remember playing with you when you used that company. Really was mean as shit  Mines are good the way they are now. Axis already has better 'stopping power' than the allies do without needing more mines. PE might use some though... |
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« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2009, 12:01:24 pm » |
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Aloha it's one thing to wear a dunce cap, it's another to go around screaming "Hey guys look I got a dunce cap on!" when it comes to some balance you really ought to listen to the guys that have been here for ever. Because AmPms terror company was deadly, and even after the change to one mine it wasn't uncommon to see people with these opening call ins of all pios/engs.
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2009, 12:03:37 pm » |
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Ultimate evil - 3x12 pios defensive players starts, each with mines and golis, then TT everything and sandbag, retreat the pios and get 88s + hmgs instead. 2x Rocket arty + omniscience for ultimate lolz.
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| CrazyWR
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« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2009, 02:56:20 am » |
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bump...Ami demos are still broken...
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1. New tactics? it's like JAWS, first one in the water dies
RCA-land where shells fall like raindrops and the Captain is an invincible god
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| VariantThirteen
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« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2009, 03:12:09 am » |
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I take back what I said about mines before. Please drop Ami mines to one per squad too -_-
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2009, 06:48:23 am » |
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fix demos to be placeable on decrewed support weapons. Just mining them isn't enough  . Freaking volks survive the blast. |
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« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2009, 06:56:45 am » |
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you can demo enemy sandbags etc aswell when demos work. it owns in retail lawl.
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2009, 08:14:52 am » |
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yea they rule..they should cost 100mun imo because they can blast whatever u want (even dnices high xp squads  ) |
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