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[Smokaz]

Discuss. Who here feels they can afford a sincere amount of bars currently, with munitions based repair for shermans, working ap rounds other at related upgrades.  Let's not immediatly make this a super hardcore balance discussion as those have a tendency to go downhill quickly.

Let's just ask some basic questions here.

1.  How many bar squads do you have in your american company?
2.  How many at guns do you have in your american company?
3.  Do you think the bar is too expensive, correctly priced or too cheap?
4.  Rate how good you think rifles are against axis inf atm without bars, from 1 (horrible) to 5 (exellent).

[stumpster]

1. 0
2. 3
3. If I was running Infantry, I'd probably get a few...so it's a little hard to say.  If they are off, it's only by a little bit and nothing super-drastic.

[AmPM]

As a note, take that last one and apply it towards unupgraded Axis infantry, and include PE Grens as well =)

[jackmccrack]

1.  How many bar squads do you have in your american company? 4
2.  How many at guns do you have in your american company? 3
3.  Do you think the bar is too expensive, correctly priced or too cheap? Just right
4.  Rate how good you think rifles are against axis inf atm without bars, from 1 (horrible) to 5 (exellent). 3

[Tymathee]

1.  How many bar squads do you have in your american company? (4)
2.  How many at guns do you have in your american company? (2)
3.  Do you think the bar is too expensive, correctly priced or too cheap? (should go back to 75 )
4.  Rate how good you think rifles are against axis inf atm without bars, from 1 (horrible) to 5 (exellent).  (2 as most axis infantry have upgrades)

[CafeMilani]

 
i dont have BARs in my armor company because of my high amount of light verhicles + repair and other upgrades
i have always 4 atguns in my company because they are awesome.
BARs are completely riced well, theres only 1 prob: they reduced mun AND implement the repair thing which is very costly when used.
everyone has bigger mun probs after the patch i think

[Tymathee]

first of all, you exactly know that everybody will say ohhh too expensive, i dont have any bars, too weak blah and you try to abuse this?^^

 how useful are volks without upgrade? even worse. thats not an argument to buff them (i think u want them buffed?)
i dont have BARs in my armor company because of my high amount of light verhicles + repair and other upgrades
i have always 4 atguns in my company because they are awesome.
BARs are completely riced well, theres only 1 prob: they reduced mun AND implement the repair thing which is very costly when used.

i think axis have even bigger mun problems after the patch, i cant even purchase lmgs any more...
schrecks are just too expensive but you need them because PAKs just suck in killing tanks (you must support them with schrecks)
wehr support weapons are more expensive in general so..

dude, i'm not even going to read this so i'll just say please shut up okay? He's trying to make this just an information post and you want to come in here and tout your axis <3 and say how OP the allies are, so whatever, get a fuckng life.

[gamesguy2]

I think suppressive fire should be removed from bars, or made a seperate upgrade.

Then make bars cheap, like 50-60 munitions.  Mp40s on volks should be made the same cost.

[RikiRude]

1. 1
2. I field all 4, way too easy for marders to kill them.
3. Hmm, I'd say it's fine, if anything, a little expensive, but only by 5-10 muni. Or maybe it's the AP rounds that are too expensive, since I have to put them on all my HMGs because of so many light vehicles -_- , or maybe sherman repair should be 40-50, since P4 is that much   I don't know.
4. Are we talking about other vanilla infantry? Obviously vs any upgraded axis infantry I'd rate it at about 2, and vs normal grens and volks id put it at 3-4. I think the rifles decrease in MP was a good step. And vs PG, I honestly don't run into enough normal PG with normal rifles, so I couldn't say, my rifles are only ever called in most cases.

I'm reading gamesguys idea, I think that would be MP40s and Bars both 50ish muni, and bars with suppression the normal 80.

[Latios418]

1.  8 out of my 14 riflemen are upgraded with BARs.
2.  Four AT Guns; none have AP rounds.
3.  I think it could be just a little bit cheaper, but otherwise fine.
4.  2/5

[wildsolus]

1.  How many bar squads do you have in your american company?
2.  How many at guns do you have in your american company?
3.  Do you think the bar is too expensive, correctly priced or too cheap?
4.  Rate how good you think rifles are against axis inf atm without bars, from 1 (horrible) to 5 (exellent).

1. none
2. 3
3. 5-10 mu too much
4. 2

[BigDick]

1. 6 bar squads
2. 4 at guns 3 of them have ap rounds
3. price is good since it deliver me mobile 360° suppression and a good damage output

@riki panzer4 repair is the same as sherman @60mun

[Killer344]

50mu.

[31stPzGren]

1.  How many bar squads do you have in your american company?
2.  How many at guns do you have in your american company?
3.  Do you think the bar is too expensive, correctly priced or too cheap?
4.  Rate how good you think rifles are against axis inf atm without bars, from 1 (horrible) to 5 (exellent).

1. None.
2. Minimum 3.
3. The BAR is still too cheap in my opinion, but I rather it stay at 80 Muni then go cheaper.
4. About 1.5

Rifles are currently quite expensive and have limited availability compared to what I used to do. I don't see a point in fielding them any more when there are much better alternatives.

[Rocksitter]

 Yes take the suppressive fire out or the MP 40 should do the same hell the MP44 would suppress the the best for the non mounted guns...

[Piotrskivich]

Perfect as is, don't remove suppression from bars, it is a main use of bars and then people would demand the removal of other free abilities and EiR would go to the dogs and you couldn't tell it apart from OMG and then you might as well merge.....

So no.