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BigDick
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Re: Focus Fire
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Reply #80 on:
October 29, 2011, 11:47:40 am »
Quote from: DarkSoldierX on October 29, 2011, 11:44:48 am
And to balance that axis sniper shoots faster, p4 shoots faster, better support weapons, ect.
p4 has less splash than sherman, sniper has less accuracy for countersniping (and doesnt shoot 50% faster like it needed to compensate the squadsize differences excluding the fact that it doesnt hit everytime)
support weapons are much more expensive and for some parts inferior like dps (of mgs)
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Spartan_Marine88
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Re: Focus Fire
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October 29, 2011, 11:49:58 am »
Quote from: BigDick on October 29, 2011, 11:45:58 am
What bars? that were vanilla rifles vs mp40 volks with steady aim medkits and pervertin pills
my apologies the mp40 volks weren't aiming at the VANILLA RIFLES because they kept walking past the rifles.
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Hicks58
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Re: Focus Fire
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October 29, 2011, 11:51:10 am »
Dick, the bottom line is if you keep trying to use that video as evidence of anything but how poorly a squad can be used, you'll only invite ridicule.
Also, not sure where you're getting this idea that the Axis has less accuracy for counter-sniping. RGD's say that Ami and Wher Snipers have equal accuracy stats against Sniper armour.
PIV has less splash BECAUSE of it's increased RoF. It also requires less splash as Rifles have lower health... High splash radius would have medium range AoE wrecking them consistently.
Axis support weapons are superior for reasons other than purely DPS, such as suppression for the MG.
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Quote from: brn4meplz on November 05, 2012, 10:45:05 am
I mean I know Obama was the first one in EiR to get a card. and tbfh the Race card is pretty OP. but Romney has the K.K.K., those guys seem to camo anywhere. So OP units from both sides.
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BigDick
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Re: Focus Fire
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October 29, 2011, 11:57:33 am »
Quote from: Hicks58 on October 29, 2011, 11:51:10 am
PIV has less splash BECAUSE of it's increased RoF. It also requires less splash as Rifles have lower health... High splash radius would have medium range AoE wrecking them consistently.
that was the response to darksoldiers "pro" argument "but the P4 has higher rate of fire"
and rifles may have lower health but they are more men and they are more spread out and they can loose 83% of their squadsize before retreating while grens can only loose 75% of their squadsize
and it doesnt matter if the grens have more hp when a sherman snipes at least one each shot
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Axis support weapons are superior for reasons other than purely DPS, such as suppression for the MG.
and much more expensive like 100% more mun for mgs
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Hicks58
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Re: Focus Fire
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October 29, 2011, 12:05:09 pm »
I'd always take an MG42 over a .30cal. Why? It doesn't matter if the DPS is a bit lower, once a squad is suppressed it's as good as dead.
The MG42 can accomplish this faster, making it invaluable in comparison to the .30cal.
Again, with the Grens your bringing in something other than the Riflemen they are fighting. An Ostwind could come along and totally wreck that Rifleman squad's day. As for squad size, the Grens will still come off on top because the Riflemen lose their DPS faster because they rely on more people to provide their DPS.
The PIV is capable of handling Riflemen more or less as efficiently as a Sherman can handle Grens. Not only that, the PIV is cheaper than the Sherman.
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CafeMilani
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Re: Focus Fire
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October 29, 2011, 12:08:26 pm »
i agree with you hicks, focus fire is actually not op.
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Spartan_Marine88
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Re: Focus Fire
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Reply #86 on:
October 29, 2011, 12:11:16 pm »
focus fire isnt OP
But Big Dick is apparently trying to win by theory crafting
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BigDick
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Re: Focus Fire
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Reply #87 on:
October 29, 2011, 12:11:31 pm »
Quote from: Hicks58 on October 29, 2011, 12:05:09 pm
Again, with the Grens your bringing in something other than the Riflemen they are fighting. An Ostwind could come along and totally wreck that Rifleman squad's day.
and when a croc comes or a stag it wrecks grens day so what is your point?
My point was to respond to deadbolt "pro" arguments grens having better dps unupgraded
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As for squad size, the Grens will still come off on top because the Riflemen lose their DPS faster because they rely on more people to provide their DPS.
that makes no sense at all cos when the first gren guy dies the gren squad lost 25% of its firepower when second guy dies it lost 33% of remaining firepower and when third guy dies it lost 50% of remaining firepower (and if u want to keep it alive even 100% because it need to retreat)
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Hicks58
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Re: Focus Fire
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October 29, 2011, 12:22:15 pm »
The Riflemen have an overall lower DPS than the Grens do, which is why losing members hurts them more than the Grens in a stand up fight... By the time the Gren squad is at 2 men, the Riflemen are at 2-3 men, and have no hope of victory at that point.
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skaffa
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Re: Focus Fire
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October 29, 2011, 01:26:09 pm »
Quote from: MorkaandBorka on October 29, 2011, 09:56:11 am
LOL olddddd strat, youve probably never heard of it.
Not sure what you're talking about.
Anyway, Im talking about when I played this old strat and how I used SF on those Rifles I had. Thank you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe80h18brEg
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Don't knock it til uve tried it bitchface, this isn't anything like salads version. Besides u said a semois conversion would never work, now look that's the most played map, ohgodwhy.jpg r u map lead
RikiRude
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Re: Focus Fire
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October 29, 2011, 01:38:45 pm »
Quote from: skaffa on October 29, 2011, 01:26:09 pm
Not sure what you're talking about.
Anyway, Im talking about when I played this old strat and how I used SF on those Rifles I had. Thank you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe80h18brEg
this is very cool, something that should be used for new players and for players to share their company builds with each other!
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