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LeoPhone
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Re: Small commando rework:
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January 16, 2012, 04:58:35 pm »
Quote from: Smokaz on January 16, 2012, 04:46:05 pm
can't really have epic heroic charge either when you have the t4
but yeah I will try again and see if the commando LT really makes such a difference
get top and mid t3 for epic LT heroic charge. you also get 0.75 rec. dmg while doing heroic charge so 2x sten mandos + lt might start to rape kch.
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8thRifleRegiment
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Re: Small commando rework:
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January 16, 2012, 05:53:45 pm »
I think, this doctrine should encourage replacing all your infantry base with commandos, as you can do with fallscrimjaegars, unfortunatly the rifle the commandos have is the most useless thing on this earth, and they are ridiuclously espensive to just get for the rifles.
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Scotzmen
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Re: Small commando rework:
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Reply #22 on:
January 16, 2012, 07:10:07 pm »
Also, Tets need some love, i see no Commando player using tetrachs except me. These little bastards are fine with LJ adapter, but bas standerd they need a bnit of a buff against infantry.
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CrazyWR
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January 16, 2012, 10:34:40 pm »
tets with LJ adapter rape face...I had one kill multiple tigers...
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Re: Small commando rework:
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January 17, 2012, 06:27:51 am »
Quote from: Smokaz on January 16, 2012, 04:46:05 pm
sure, sure. But you said yourself this was kinda useless for the
sten.
and it makes sense right? at short range where the sten is good, the accuracy thing will at best counteract other buffs.
can't really have epic heroic charge either when you have the t4
but yeah I will try again and see if the commando LT really makes such a difference
the commando leutnant buffs the commando stens afaik (if buffs apply to the stens) by
55% more dps short range
61% more dps med range
80% more dps long range
that should make it like almost like a 6 bren squad longrange
i remember when people complained about pervertin pills 35% dps buff or something
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deadbolt
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Re: Small commando rework:
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January 17, 2012, 06:31:25 am »
why not make a t4 that reduces commandos pool, that why you can get more for less rape on your pool
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LeoPhone
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Re: Small commando rework:
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January 17, 2012, 07:01:42 am »
Quote from: BigDick on January 17, 2012, 06:27:51 am
the commando leutnant buffs the commando stens afaik (if buffs apply to the stens) by
55% more dps short range
61% more dps med range
80% more dps long range
that should make it like almost like a 6 bren squad longrange
i remember when people complained about pervertin pills 35% dps buff or something
and you would get the same DPS at med/long range by using just LT buffed lee enfields! which don't cost 135 munitions
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Smokaz
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Re: Small commando rework:
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January 17, 2012, 11:45:05 am »
dont contradict bigdick, he will hate you
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BigDick
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Re: Small commando rework:
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January 17, 2012, 12:01:26 pm »
Quote from: LeoPhone on January 17, 2012, 07:01:42 am
and you would get the same DPS at med/long range by using just LT buffed lee enfields! which don't cost 135 munitions
yeah med and longrange but u get still around 450% short range dps with the stens compared to default rifles
so it does obviously not change the role of an smg so you want to get into close combat with the stens sure
but its not always possible cos players run when assault units charge and these insane buffs will give it great longrange accuracy (for comparison more than a k98 grensquad on longrange with that smg)
but i agree the buffs of commando officer are in general retarded
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Hicks58
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Re: Small commando rework:
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January 17, 2012, 01:58:40 pm »
As I've tried to point out, the shortcoming of the Sten is not it's accuracy, it's the damage it deals.
Infantry, Airborne and Elite armour it deals 0.75, Heroic it deals 0.6 and Soldier it deals 0.5.
The Sten has 0.75 close range accuracy, with a fair deal of misses rolling as hits at that range. Accuracy is only going to show a tangible benefit up to a point.
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Smokaz
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Re: Small commando rework:
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January 17, 2012, 01:59:29 pm »
Last game on abbeville I had a unupgraded vet 1 fsj squad beat a vet 2 commando squad with 5 stens and 1 shrek using smoke
Tbh I think the devs have ninja nerfed smoke, you are supposed to be invisible for a duration after the use is popped, last game Crazy's Tiger Ace shot me like 0.5 seconds after I used smoke and shaved off 3 guys.
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smurfORnot
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Re: Small commando rework:
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January 17, 2012, 02:06:22 pm »
Quote
Last game on abbeville I had a unupgraded vet 1 fsj squad beat a vet 2 commando squad with 5 stens and 1 shrek using smoke Smiley
pics or didnt happen!
OR fj's are OP if they are not unupgraded,lol
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Smokaz
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Re: Small commando rework:
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January 17, 2012, 02:06:51 pm »
Ask Jack he was in the game on Abbe with Aurdo and TheHost. I had 2 members left with like 10% hp, he retreated at 1 man. Thats beaten to me.
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aeroblade56
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Re: Small commando rework:
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January 17, 2012, 03:16:42 pm »
Quote from: Smokaz on January 17, 2012, 01:59:29 pm
Last game on abbeville I had a unupgraded vet 1 fsj squad beat a vet 2 commando squad with 5 stens and 1 shrek using smoke
Tbh I think the devs have ninja nerfed smoke, you are supposed to be invisible for a duration after the use is popped, last game Crazy's Tiger Ace shot me like 0.5 seconds after I used smoke and shaved off 3 guys.
they did somehow, i noticed a KT snipe my whilst smoke popped or enemy units just rushing right when i hit it and still effectively hit me when (invisible)
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Tymathee
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Re: Small commando rework:
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Reply #34 on:
January 17, 2012, 05:40:24 pm »
what if they had something so they could see them? they're just invisible like a storm, they can still be detected.
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Scotzmen
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Re: Small commando rework:
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January 17, 2012, 05:48:24 pm »
If you smoke after the projectile weapon fires, it can still hit.
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