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« Reply #220 on: August 08, 2012, 02:47:56 pm »

He used some legal trickery to make it so that it was his son that was banned, so the braintyminator can continue it's rampage.
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« Reply #221 on: August 08, 2012, 02:49:20 pm »

As for reversing the Tiger...

I attempted to explain this to Speedy/Nightrain over Vent.

Basically, it uses the same pathing profile as the Pershing. To reverse the Pershing/Tiger, you have to click in a specific spot in the centre of mass behind the Pershing/Tiger - You have a deviation of approx 3mm either way. If you go over this, the tank WILL attempt to turn around on the spot and drive normally to the designated spot. Not only that, when you are reversing, you have a cone of approx 15 degrees to turn the vehicle during it's reversing in repeated reverse move orders to get it to reverse and turn at the same time without trying to turn around.

The problem is compounded with the Tiger for one reason alone. The Tiger has a wider profile. While this may seem like a benefit at first and give you a wider area to click in for the reverse, it actually doesn't. It leads to a lot of on the spot over-estimating and fucking up of reversing pathing if you try to stack reverse orders - Which I commonly do. I'll order at least 5-10 reverse orders for a tank, let it go reverse away, while I micro another unit for a second.

Doing this with a Tiger is fatal. A Pershing? More care is used due to the tighter profile, you KNOW that bitch is a finicky one. With the Tiger, you expect that little shit to do what it's told. However, it doesn't.

One bad camera angle, one badly placed building, one moment of indecision? Your stickied, hit by an extra ATG round, rushed, etc.

So yeah. The Tiger is a pain in the arse to reverse.

Btw, so is the Marder, but that little shit is a discussion in itself.
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« Reply #222 on: August 08, 2012, 02:54:02 pm »

Fun fact btw people.

ATG penetration vs Tiger: 0.35

ATG penetration vs Panther: 0.35

Tiger has more health and can withstand more rounds... So how come the argument that ATG's penetrate Tiger's too often came up, when nothing has been said for the Panther?

Because the Panther has more Range, gets hit from long range. less penetration then being hit from medium, That's why its brought up since the panther is staying further away from the battle but contributing the same amount of hurt on the enemy
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Smokaz Offline
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« Reply #223 on: August 08, 2012, 02:55:11 pm »

Panther is also way stronger vs handeheld
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« Reply #224 on: August 08, 2012, 02:58:48 pm »

I heard that dropping 2 tetrachs on enemy back lines to kill repairing tanks or otherwise units that sit far back contributes quite a lot to the battle.

true, tets are a unique example though.  I was referring to other tanks mostly.
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« Reply #225 on: August 08, 2012, 04:26:14 pm »

As for reversing the Tiger...
So yeah. The Tiger is a pain in the arse to reverse.

Btw, so is the Marder, but that little shit is a discussion in itself.

Well said and I will have to practice that. I'm bad at reversing the Tiger and Pershings, if I can master my micromanagement, I should start having fun with heavies again.
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« Reply #226 on: August 08, 2012, 05:37:21 pm »

yea, maybe then you can get 80 + kills instead of 40 without replay  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #227 on: August 08, 2012, 05:44:16 pm »

Tym plays with tiger:

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« Reply #228 on: August 08, 2012, 06:19:16 pm »

Lol. Moderation on balance discussions seem to be on a all time low lately.
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« Reply #229 on: August 08, 2012, 08:37:19 pm »

Tym plays with tiger:



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« Reply #230 on: August 08, 2012, 09:56:41 pm »

http://www.gamefront.com/files/22100229/tymthetiger.zip

revel in my fail gameplay
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« Reply #231 on: August 09, 2012, 03:15:08 am »

That wasnt good use of tigers lol. You failed with your first tiger faster then anyone fails with a bike.

Your 2nd tiger got those kills by last hits and desperate attacks by the allies when they just threw themselfs at you the las 4 min.

Nothing to be proud of in that game.

sorry tymtym
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« Reply #232 on: August 09, 2012, 03:37:00 am »

My question, why am I not allowed to field 3 glorious Tigers?
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« Reply #233 on: August 09, 2012, 03:57:27 am »

My question, why am I not allowed to field 3 glorious Tigers?

Same reason why I'm not allowed to field 3 double repair move Pershings.

Because A can't get it B won't be getting it either. That's the basic thought.
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« Reply #234 on: August 09, 2012, 08:03:47 am »

3 tigers would be at least cool, why you can have 3-4 jumbos then?
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« Reply #235 on: August 09, 2012, 08:45:04 am »

That wasnt good use of tigers lol. You failed with your first tiger faster then anyone fails with a bike.

Your 2nd tiger got those kills by last hits and desperate attacks by the allies when they just threw themselfs at you the las 4 min.

Nothing to be proud of in that game.

sorry tymtym

i didn't say i was great with tigers, i'm okay and i hadn't used one in months. I usually play only with light vehicles and medium tanks, my heavy tank micro is very off.

if I played with one everyday, i'll get back to the days where i used to have a vet 2 pershing and a vet 3 in reserve, those were fun days.
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« Reply #236 on: August 09, 2012, 10:11:17 am »

i didn't say i was great with tigers, i'm okay and i hadn't used one in months. I usually play only with light vehicles and medium tanks, my heavy tank micro is very off.

if I played with one everyday, i'll get back to the days where i used to have a vet 2 pershing and a vet 3 in reserve, those were fun days.
Pershing aint tiger
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« Reply #237 on: August 09, 2012, 10:28:02 am »

Pershing aint tiger

Exactly, Tiger > Pershing.
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« Reply #238 on: August 09, 2012, 10:30:22 am »

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« Reply #239 on: August 09, 2012, 10:50:47 am »

Exactly, Tiger > Pershing.

Wat.
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