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[Mgallun74]

uggh, relic sucks wang.

[LeoPhone]

change this thing right now. its fucking retarded. it can take on a panther in its own. and since the only AT germans can have are paks and panthers(paks r useless, hellcat just cloaks) this explains why axis is losing the war.
change screck price
change hellcat stupid dmg, penetration and cloakin in battle.

[RikiRude]

change this thing right now. its fucking retarded. it can take on a panther in its own. and since the only AT germans can have are paks and panthers(paks r useless, hellcat just cloaks) this explains why axis is losing the war.
change screck price
change hellcat stupid dmg, penetration and cloakin in battle.

lol isn't so fun when allies get a unit that can cloak is it? You know that pak you were complaining about... yeah it cloaks too!

And please show a replay of an M18 taking out a panther on it's own. Hellcats take 3-5 shots to be killed. And if that ambush shot misses or bounces, that's one dead hellcat and at most maybe 25% damage to the panther?

[AmPM]

The Hellcat has the same gun as the m10, though with roughly 50% of the M10s penetration.

It will rarely penetrate a Panther from the front except for ambush, it has no armor, and it can't fight infantry. Stop attacking my 2 vet 2 Hellcats with P4s or a single unsupported Panther and expecting to win.

[Malevolence]

uggh, relic sucks wang.

You can not play if you'd like.

[LeoPhone]

i was fighting one hellcat with a full health panther. they met eachother. hellcat just cloaked and got the pen. bonus, his next shot did the same dmg. goodbye 50% of a panther.

oh, and if you have a vet 2 hellcat and i have a vet2 p4 i expect that the p4 can drive backwars before its already dead.

and as i sayd about the hellcat cloaking when it met the panther. youll never see a pak doing that since when your pak meets something else 1v1. its circled.

hetzers cant turn...
storms can still be overran and cloaking inf is very different than cloaking vehicles.

[AmPM]

There were 2 Hellcats Leo...go watch the replay...

Your P4 died to 2 Ambush shots and 2 Penetrating normal shots (go go lucky hits); your Panthers were both hit by M8 mines prior to even MEETING a Hellcat, 1 was Immobile and repairing, the other was taking hits and engine damaged.

The last Panther turned its rear to me and ran away, that's why it was damaged.

[Malevolence]

Wanna try using the hellcat if it's so imba leophone? I think we should all try that before we call hax on units that mess with our mojo in one game one single time.

[LeoPhone]

NO AMPM, I MOVED MY FULL HEALTH PANTHER TO THE FRONT.
IT MET A HELLCAT ALSO MOVING TO SOMEWHERE. THEN HELLCAT CLOAKED, SHOT 2 TIMES AND GOODBYE 50% OF A PANTHER. GO WATCH THE REPLAY.

and my point is that hellcats that cloak should work like paks or hetzers. right now hellcat can just take 25% of an enemy vehicle at first encounter.
hellcats should just sit somewhere behind a building next to a hmg while cloaking, and then when axis actually attack it can get a single bonus. not cloaking in combat.

[Smokaz]

m10

<3

[LeoPhone]

Wanna try using the hellcat if it's so imba leophone? I think we should all try that before we call hax on units that mess with our mojo in one game one single time.

in fact thers already a topic about it, so appearantly other ppl had retarded things happening while fighting hellcats, and now i finally fight one, it seems they indeed are bs.

[AmPM]

Really Leo, L2P, its a Tank Destroyer, they are made to kill tanks. They get similar bonuses to PAKs, and cost more, use more Pop, and are not recrewable. I think you are just having a problem with your Panther not being a god on the battlefield. Just wait till I get my AP rounds  

[Unkn0wn]

The recloaking in combat is something we might address though considering that it has already been changed for infantry based cloaking.

[LeoPhone]

and again i will repeat myselve AMPM:

ONLY AT I CAN USE ARE PAKS AND PANTHERS, SINCE SCRECKS ARE TOTAL BS.

[AmPM]

It actually can't recloak in combat Unknown, but it can cloak prior to getting shot or firing a shot. So if I roll up on said Panther without shooting and it doesn't shoot me, I can hit the cloak and get the first strike.


And Leo, schreks are BS, have you seen how fast they go through my Hellcats? Its not even a contest, a single schrek will kill one. I demand schreks be raised in price!!

As for AT, you want to know what I have for AT? 2 M10s, 3 Hellcats, and 2 57's. That's it. Why not try NOT charging schrek squads forward to kill mortars?

[Unkn0wn]

Yea I never really saw them cloak in combat so I was wondering if Leo was talking lies .
Of course they can run in, cloak prior to taking a shot and get full benefit from the bonus but any cloaked unit can do so...

[salan]

The recloaking in combat is something we might address though considering that it has already been changed for infantry based cloaking.

hellcat has a completely different system, kinda like the sappers one.  I doubt they can engage it while in combat.

[LeoPhone]

http://www.xfire.com/video/114bb7/

ok, the 2 hellcats were cloaking already before p4 arrived, but its penetration vs panthers and p4s is still 100%, and its range is insane!

[AmPM]

That video is epic....

Because 1 mine gets 2 Panthers and the sniper =)

[CafeMilani]

range is quite funny, u can kite the most important axis tanks -> dont lose dmg -> survivability is goood-->ampm cries its UP