Mysthalin
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« Reply #60 on: April 23, 2010, 08:17:31 am » |
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Uhhh, why don't you read my initial post, then? I propose to nerf hulldown more than I do the crocodile...
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« Reply #61 on: April 23, 2010, 08:20:50 am » |
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My initial post was about CC being fine as it is. More precise: The churchills is lumbersome and slow and is infantry tanks, that can kill light vehicles. They have a hard time against other tanks, panthers rofls at them (panthers that every axis player can have, churchills are doctrinal).
Crocodile churchills are REs ultimate tank, compared to jagdpanthers,Kingtigers and Pershings. It is a bit cheaper but all the other real heavies are good against other tanks, Churchill crocs and the other churchills are not.
I'd say it is OK as it is. Then you began talking about "OP-cards". I can still agree with a slightly increased fuel cost. I lol at this discussion!  |
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #62 on: April 23, 2010, 09:52:37 am » |
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I meant read my initial post, not yours. My reply about "OP-cards" was to show that your train of logic was faulty - just because it's a doctrinal unit does not grant it any right to be OP. Honestly, this discussion wasn't that bad. Though you could have used something more solid than opinions to back up your claims  . |
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« Reply #63 on: April 23, 2010, 10:17:23 am » |
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The main problem isn't the churchill itself, but hulldown that is broken. I have read your post, and just stated my view again. There is always opinions behind claims.
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« Reply #64 on: April 23, 2010, 10:31:44 am » |
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #65 on: April 24, 2010, 04:37:40 am » |
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lulz uber fail conclusion haha
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« Reply #66 on: April 24, 2010, 05:33:22 am » |
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lulz uber fail conclusion haha
Says Aloha, the Oracle, known all around the world for being right. |
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #67 on: April 24, 2010, 06:19:11 am » |
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at least i see if its a fail conclusion which wont solve the problem or not.
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« Reply #68 on: April 24, 2010, 07:03:30 am » |
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And I also happen to recognize trolls when I see them, and you know what happens to them? They get banned from posting on the Balance Forum.
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If I get shot and it's a gay medic fixing me up, he's not gonna be fondling my balls while he does it. You can't patch a chest wound and suck a cock at the same time.
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #69 on: April 24, 2010, 10:09:51 am » |
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yeah i know im the bad troll but in the end (after several months) it becomes true anyways
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« Reply #70 on: April 24, 2010, 12:29:06 pm » |
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What is the cooldown on Hull Down?
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Let's talk about PIATs in a car.
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #71 on: April 24, 2010, 12:30:22 pm » |
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0, with no delay until the bonuses are applied. Like I restated 50 times now ;p.
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« Reply #72 on: April 24, 2010, 12:32:39 pm » |
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NERF!! |
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #73 on: April 24, 2010, 12:34:08 pm » |
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Derka derka derk.
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« Reply #74 on: April 29, 2010, 01:39:55 pm » |
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Not that this is vcoh, but there, a croc costs almost as much as a tiger...
Somebody obviously misunderstood the role of this tank. The main gun only a small factor in the value of a vehicle, and this one has two main guns, in addition to juggernaut style defensive stats.
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TOV units = intentionally OP marketing gimmicks
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« Reply #75 on: April 29, 2010, 01:56:20 pm » |
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only you can get infinate crocs and only 1 tiger there. tiger also costs more CPs and...
this aint vcoh.
anyway, this thread already had a conclusion:
-fix hull down
-increase price of croc a bit
-revert main gun back to the 6pdr instead of the flamethrower(you cant target halftracks atm)
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #76 on: April 29, 2010, 02:42:09 pm » |
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-revert main gun back to the 6pdr instead of the flamethrower(you cant target halftracks atm)
1. The main gun was never the 6 pdr. 2. Nobody concluded to that ;p. |
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« Reply #77 on: April 29, 2010, 02:59:02 pm » |
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-revert main gun back to the 6pdr instead of the flamethrower(you cant target halftracks atm)
1. The main gun was never the 6 pdr. 2. Nobody concluded to that ;p. i did, and the 6lbr was the main gun, i read it patch notes one day. somehow it went back to the flamethrower and it sucks ALOT. |
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #78 on: April 29, 2010, 03:00:23 pm » |
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For you it does - for me the flamethrower seeking out it's targets means I can forget about the croc for a second to micro other stuff, because I don't have to watch the unit's facing. And the flamethrower stubbornly shooting at some pioneers on a road instead of a pak crew would be far more annoying - trust me.
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LeoPhone
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« Reply #79 on: April 29, 2010, 03:38:38 pm » |
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just use the right mouse button, point croc to pak and done.
ppl who micro shouldnt be punished not to be able to. with the croc its instead the guys who dont get rewarded...
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