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[wildsolus]

bonuses might have been off, but the playstyle itself was epic fun. you could play "american" wehrmacht with your strong grenadiers, you weren't the bitch of allied tanks crushing your guys and light vehicles going close up

more than anything the strong part of the OP terror was a infantry AT doctrine putting the hurt on people who intelligently use the fact that shreks are unreliable at by crushing the grenadier squads or mauling them from close range because wehr had no VD's

if terror was easy it just reflects right back on both the american infantry doctrines, carabines was just ever so slightly harder to play than terror and only in the situation carabines were playing terror

there was a lot of retarded shit back then, terror could be uber retarded if you picked and synergized all the infantry centered stuff

infantry/ab survived, terror didn't and was made into this modern day bitch o'ze alies

no reason 2 hate out of ignoreance on the beloved grandfather of total ownage, all hail terror

I remember the first tear jerk I encountered upon getting the recently removed ferocity, it was sharpshooter who put on his big deer eyes upon having his 50 fuel CCT shot to pieces by IA/F shreks as it tried to on a flank speed rampage

so fix the american doctrines, don't bitch because terror is fair now.  No doctrine should allow every unit to be amazing.  The whole point of doctrines is specialization ffs.  Terror is for tanks or support weapons or if you want to grenspam, go pills.  If you want to grenspam, go defense...

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[Masacree]

Terror can't have everything good. Sure, they get 1 t4 that buffs any particular part of the army, but these buffs are all sub par, and obviously they can only get one.

[Computer991]

The allied fan boy thingy is whistling

[CrazyWR]

l2read...

[wildsolus]

The allied fan boy thingy is whistling

who? we just quoted a post saying american doctrines should be made worse.

[Computer991]

might as well not add any doctrines then,if every doctrine was as boring as defensive was then i'd go play OMG or something.

[DarkSoldierX]

The allied fan boy thingy is whistling

who? we just quoted a post saying american doctrines should be made worse.

Your getting mad at people wanting balance. Inorder to bring back the balance all doctrines except american doctrines need to be buffed, or american doctrined need to be nerfed. Define to me what you guys are arguing for. Terror to not be buffed? There is imbalance. So you agree that americans are too powerful? great lets even the playingfield.

[Masacree]

IMO terror should be OP like the good ole' days.

Give it zeal as a t2 or t3, and add back in ferocity as a t4. Also, giving heavy support back a couple of range boosts would really make it more viable.

As far as the doctrine unlocks, the pretty much suck. V1 could use less drift (to snipe howitzers ect. firestorm is fine, 4 man kch is viable, geschutz meh, blackout seems powerful (obv never used it in eir) dual lmgs shouldn't even be a doctrine upgrade, medic ht seems obsolete with medkit buffs, KT is KT, and Terror of Stalingrad is quite subpar.

[wildsolus]

fuckin learn to read dipshits.

im not gettin mad at people wanting balance, i'm saying MAKE CARBINES, TANK REAPERS and other OP allied doctrines worse to 'match up' with axis t4's. no point in making fuckin OP axis doctrines because people will only choose 1 t4 and shit gets really boring aka old eir where everyone went terror OP as fuck and tank reapers.

[CrazyWR]

might as well not add any doctrines then,if every doctrine was as boring as defensive was then i'd go play OMG or something.

no one is stopping you.  The rest of us don't play the most completely OP doctrine of the moment every time there is a wipe...I don't understand how when I PLAINLY SAY FIX THE AMERICAN DOCTRINES you interpret it as nerf wehr.  Masacree should be banned from balance forums tbh, and Dark, read what I posted ffs.

[Computer991]

If you say so all mighty balance masters.

[Killer344]

Ok, this isn't the Balance Forum FYI.