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[SX23]

Despite the nerf that it recently had, the sherman upgun is still to versatile. It can easily kill a p4 and a shreck squad. You should make something like : upgun: Accuracy against inf. similar to the one of a panther and none-upgun, well leave it as it is. Right now, an upgun sherman can take both 2x shreck squad or a p4 quite easily in a 1v1. It should be one or the other, not boths.

[UndeathWrath]

+1

[FailHammer]

+1

[Spartan_Marine88]

Despite the nerf that it recently had, the sherman upgun is still to versatile. It can easily kill a p4 and a shreck squad. You should make something like : upgun: Accuracy against inf. similar to the one of a panther and none-upgun, well leave it as it is. Right now, an upgun sherman can take both 2x shreck squad or a p4 quite easily in a 1v1. It should be one or the other, not boths.

No nerf needed, support your units

[SX23]

Despite the nerf that it recently had, the sherman upgun is still to versatile. It can easily kill a p4 and a shreck squad. You should make something like : upgun: Accuracy against inf. similar to the one of a panther and none-upgun, well leave it as it is. Right now, an upgun sherman can take both 2x shreck squad or a p4 quite easily in a 1v1. It should be one or the other, not boths.

No nerf needed, support your units

The problem with the sherman is that's it's WAY too versatile. Find any other equivalent in the game that performs aswell without docs/buffs...

[wildsolus]

Despite the nerf that it recently had, the sherman upgun is still to versatile. It can easily kill a p4 and a shreck squad. You should make something like : upgun: Accuracy against inf. similar to the one of a panther and none-upgun, well leave it as it is. Right now, an upgun sherman can take both 2x shreck squad or a p4 quite easily in a 1v1. It should be one or the other, not boths.

No nerf needed, support your units

The problem with the sherman is that's it's WAY too versatile. Find any other equivalent in the game that performs aswell without docs/buffs...

p4

[gamesguy2]

Despite the nerf that it recently had, the sherman upgun is still to versatile. It can easily kill a p4 and a shreck squad. You should make something like : upgun: Accuracy against inf. similar to the one of a panther and none-upgun, well leave it as it is. Right now, an upgun sherman can take both 2x shreck squad or a p4 quite easily in a 1v1. It should be one or the other, not boths.

This simply is not true.  I just had a game this morning where elite gren takes out an upgunned sherman with a single squad of dual shreks.

[Firesparks]

maybe the price for the upgun is just too cheap? I mean the mg42/skirt on the pziv cost 50 munition. should be around 75-100

[LeoPhone]

or give it fuel cost. just a tiny amount of fuel cost will stop people from instabuying it.

[Clavis55o]

Despite the nerf that it recently had, the sherman upgun is still to versatile. It can easily kill a p4 and a shreck squad. You should make something like : upgun: Accuracy against inf. similar to the one of a panther and none-upgun, well leave it as it is. Right now, an upgun sherman can take both 2x shreck squad or a p4 quite easily in a 1v1. It should be one or the other, not boths.

No nerf needed, support your units

+1

[Tymathee]

Ok, so because a sherman upgun can beat a x2 schreck squad solo withno support, its OP? OK, so, we should nerf the Panther and P4 and stug cuz they can all beat an airborne squad or ranger squad fail argument. NEXT!

[Spartan_Marine88]

Despite the nerf that it recently had, the sherman upgun is still to versatile. It can easily kill a p4 and a shreck squad. You should make something like : upgun: Accuracy against inf. similar to the one of a panther and none-upgun, well leave it as it is. Right now, an upgun sherman can take both 2x shreck squad or a p4 quite easily in a 1v1. It should be one or the other, not boths.

This simply is not true.  I just had a game this morning where elite gren takes out an upgunned sherman with a single squad of dual shreks.

Please post if you can, then they can't argue with fact.

plus forgot to note when people usually micro 2 squads of shreks, they get the squads confused and micro them right under my treads or keep them too far away for the shrek to be effectively accurate

[Malevolence]

Vehicle with 5 move speed and 40 range able to kite infantry with 3 move speed and 35 range, news at 11.

[Tymathee]

put schrecks in building, u win.

[MittinsKittens]

and if there isn't a building around?

[LeoPhone]

and if there isn't a building around?

u lose LOL.

[Tymathee]

Green Cover, Yellow Cover. IF ur  on a road, ur screwed.

[Killer344]

Read the guidelines before making a thread people, it ain't so hard.

[lionel23]

Also, any wehr company can have a building.. bunkers or (if defensive) trenches, which I use to great effect against Armor/vehicle based companies.. and you have clown cars for PE.  And to also add something else to the 'well what do you do when you have no building' around, keep the infantry supported and don't run alone.  A single shrek and P4 are more than a match for an upgun sherman.

[DarkSoldierX]

Sherman upgun does need a nerf.

Also, any wehr company can have a building.. bunkers or (if defensive) trenches, which I use to great effect against Armor/vehicle based companies.. and you have clown cars for PE.  And to also add something else to the 'well what do you do when you have no building' around, keep the infantry supported and don't run alone.  A single shrek and P4 are more than a match for an upgun sherman.

Single shrek + P4 = 17 pop.
Sherman upgun = 12 pop

Riflesquad /w bar + sherman upgun = 17 pop
Riflesquad /w bar + sherman upgun > single shrek + P4 in most engagements of people of equal skill