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SX23
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Sherman Upgun...
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July 01, 2010, 02:20:15 pm »
Despite the nerf that it recently had, the sherman upgun is still to versatile. It can easily kill a p4 and a shreck squad. You should make something like : upgun: Accuracy against inf. similar to the one of a panther and none-upgun, well leave it as it is. Right now, an upgun sherman can take both 2x shreck squad or a p4 quite easily in a 1v1. It should be one or the other, not boths.
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Spartan_Marine88
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Re: Sherman Upgun...
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Quote from: SX23 on July 01, 2010, 02:20:15 pm
Despite the nerf that it recently had, the sherman upgun is still to versatile. It can easily kill a p4 and a shreck squad. You should make something like : upgun: Accuracy against inf. similar to the one of a panther and none-upgun, well leave it as it is. Right now, an upgun sherman can take both 2x shreck squad or a p4 quite easily in a 1v1. It should be one or the other, not boths.
No nerf needed, support your units
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SX23
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Re: Sherman Upgun...
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Quote from: Spartan_Marine88 on July 01, 2010, 02:51:30 pm
Quote from: SX23 on July 01, 2010, 02:20:15 pm
Despite the nerf that it recently had, the sherman upgun is still to versatile. It can easily kill a p4 and a shreck squad. You should make something like : upgun: Accuracy against inf. similar to the one of a panther and none-upgun, well leave it as it is. Right now, an upgun sherman can take both 2x shreck squad or a p4 quite easily in a 1v1. It should be one or the other, not boths.
No nerf needed, support your units
The problem with the sherman is that's it's WAY too versatile. Find any other equivalent in the game that performs aswell without docs/buffs...
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wildsolus
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Re: Sherman Upgun...
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Quote from: SX23 on July 01, 2010, 03:09:24 pm
Quote from: Spartan_Marine88 on July 01, 2010, 02:51:30 pm
Quote from: SX23 on July 01, 2010, 02:20:15 pm
Despite the nerf that it recently had, the sherman upgun is still to versatile. It can easily kill a p4 and a shreck squad. You should make something like : upgun: Accuracy against inf. similar to the one of a panther and none-upgun, well leave it as it is. Right now, an upgun sherman can take both 2x shreck squad or a p4 quite easily in a 1v1. It should be one or the other, not boths.
No nerf needed, support your units
The problem with the sherman is that's it's WAY too versatile. Find any other equivalent in the game that performs aswell without docs/buffs...
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gamesguy2
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Re: Sherman Upgun...
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July 01, 2010, 04:08:21 pm »
Quote from: SX23 on July 01, 2010, 02:20:15 pm
Despite the nerf that it recently had, the sherman upgun is still to versatile. It can easily kill a p4 and a shreck squad. You should make something like : upgun: Accuracy against inf. similar to the one of a panther and none-upgun, well leave it as it is.
Right now, an upgun sherman can take both 2x shreck squad or a p4 quite easily in a 1v1. It should be one or the other, not boths.
This simply is not true. I just had a game this morning where elite gren takes out an upgunned sherman with a single squad of dual shreks.
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Firesparks
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Re: Sherman Upgun...
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July 01, 2010, 04:47:20 pm »
maybe the price for the upgun is just too cheap? I mean the mg42/skirt on the pziv cost 50 munition. should be around 75-100
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Re: Sherman Upgun...
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July 01, 2010, 04:49:34 pm »
or give it fuel cost. just a tiny amount of fuel cost will stop people from instabuying it.
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Clavis55o
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Re: Sherman Upgun...
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July 01, 2010, 05:08:04 pm »
Quote from: Spartan_Marine88 on July 01, 2010, 02:51:30 pm
Quote from: SX23 on July 01, 2010, 02:20:15 pm
Despite the nerf that it recently had, the sherman upgun is still to versatile. It can easily kill a p4 and a shreck squad. You should make something like : upgun: Accuracy against inf. similar to the one of a panther and none-upgun, well leave it as it is. Right now, an upgun sherman can take both 2x shreck squad or a p4 quite easily in a 1v1. It should be one or the other, not boths.
No nerf needed, support your units
+1
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Tymathee
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Re: Sherman Upgun...
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July 01, 2010, 05:10:45 pm »
Ok, so because a sherman upgun can beat a x2 schreck squad solo withno support, its OP? OK, so, we should nerf the Panther and P4 and stug cuz they can all beat an airborne squad or ranger squad fail argument. NEXT!
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Spartan_Marine88
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Re: Sherman Upgun...
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July 01, 2010, 05:19:28 pm »
Quote from: gamesguy2 on July 01, 2010, 04:08:21 pm
Quote from: SX23 on July 01, 2010, 02:20:15 pm
Despite the nerf that it recently had, the sherman upgun is still to versatile. It can easily kill a p4 and a shreck squad. You should make something like : upgun: Accuracy against inf. similar to the one of a panther and none-upgun, well leave it as it is.
Right now, an upgun sherman can take both 2x shreck squad or a p4 quite easily in a 1v1. It should be one or the other, not boths.
This simply is not true. I just had a game this morning where elite gren takes out an upgunned sherman with a single squad of dual shreks.
Please post if you can, then they can't argue with fact.
plus forgot to note when people usually micro 2 squads of shreks, they get the squads confused and micro them right under my treads or keep them too far away for the shrek to be effectively accurate
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Re: Sherman Upgun...
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July 01, 2010, 05:23:54 pm »
Vehicle with 5 move speed and 40 range able to kite infantry with 3 move speed and 35 range, news at 11.
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Tymathee
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Re: Sherman Upgun...
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July 01, 2010, 05:31:47 pm »
put schrecks in building, u win.
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MittinsKittens
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and if there isn't a building around?
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LeoPhone
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July 01, 2010, 05:53:53 pm »
Quote from: MittinsKittens on July 01, 2010, 05:40:23 pm
and if there isn't a building around?
u lose LOL.
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Tymathee
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July 01, 2010, 06:54:19 pm »
Green Cover, Yellow Cover. IF ur on a road, ur screwed.
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Killer344
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Re: Sherman Upgun...
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July 01, 2010, 07:03:32 pm »
Read the guidelines before making a thread people, it ain't so hard.
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lionel23
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Re: Sherman Upgun...
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July 01, 2010, 08:19:07 pm »
Also, any wehr company can have a building.. bunkers or (if defensive) trenches, which I use to great effect against Armor/vehicle based companies.. and you have clown cars for PE. And to also add something else to the 'well what do you do when you have no building' around, keep the infantry supported and don't run alone. A single shrek and P4 are more than a match for an upgun sherman.
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DarkSoldierX
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Re: Sherman Upgun...
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July 01, 2010, 11:18:41 pm »
Sherman upgun does need a nerf.
Quote from: lionel23 on July 01, 2010, 08:19:07 pm
Also, any wehr company can have a building.. bunkers or (if defensive) trenches, which I use to great effect against Armor/vehicle based companies.. and you have clown cars for PE. And to also add something else to the 'well what do you do when you have no building' around, keep the infantry supported and don't run alone. A single shrek and P4 are more than a match for an upgun sherman.
Single shrek + P4 = 17 pop.
Sherman upgun = 12 pop
Riflesquad /w bar + sherman upgun = 17 pop
Riflesquad /w bar + sherman upgun > single shrek + P4 in most engagements of people of equal skill
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