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« Reply #100 on: October 28, 2010, 05:22:50 am » |
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The big question is, would you kill someone else over someting related to EIRR? yes obviously (you smokaz ) ![Wink](http://forums.europeinruins.com/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Yeah calbanes, I mean - some people like smokaz are still yet to win a single game, even though they've been around here for years.
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« Reply #101 on: October 28, 2010, 02:54:03 pm » |
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I have a serious suggestion about assault grenades:
Perhaps they could not be changed at all but instead made into a tier 3 unlock. The flamegrenadier whatever guys that have the flamethrowers could replace them as a tier 2. This way less people will spam assault grenades because they won't be able to have them PLUS mines/healing cars, hummels etc.
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No tits, but i will bake a cake then eat it in honour of Sir Condor The 3rd
fuck the pgren rifle, fucking dogshit weapon
My beautiful black pussy won
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« Reply #102 on: October 29, 2010, 07:50:25 am » |
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I have a serious suggestion about assault grenades:
Perhaps they could not be changed at all but instead made into a tier 3 unlock. The flamegrenadier whatever guys that have the flamethrowers could replace them as a tier 2. This way less people will spam assault grenades because they won't be able to have them PLUS mines/healing cars, hummels etc.
interesting idea! and its done without complaining or bitching!
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« Reply #103 on: October 29, 2010, 09:11:36 am » |
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*cough* Team Lead is Allied bias, just FYI
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« Reply #104 on: October 29, 2010, 09:33:04 am » |
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Doesn't solve the issue. It just postpones it. Again it is not the combination of skills that is in question here.
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He thinks Tactics is a breath mint Wow I think that was the nicest thing brn ever posted! ![Tongue](http://forums.europeinruins.com/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) the pussy of a prostitute is not tight enough for destroy a condom ![Wink](http://forums.europeinruins.com/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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« Reply #105 on: October 29, 2010, 09:37:40 am » |
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Doesn't solve the issue. It just postpones it. Again it is not the combination of skills that is in question here.
No but if a player would have to give up tons of other great unlocks, he/she may consider not purchasing assault grenades and going with something else instead.
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« Reply #106 on: October 29, 2010, 09:38:55 am » |
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Tell me where maybe not purchasing solves the balance concern that the skill currently is.
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« Reply #107 on: October 29, 2010, 09:42:01 am » |
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Tell me where maybe not purchasing solves the balance concern that the skill currently is.
Uhhh, if people don't buy it they won't use it? No problem
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« Reply #108 on: October 29, 2010, 09:46:09 am » |
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No but if a player would have to give up tons of other great unlocks, he/she may consider not purchasing assault grenades and going with something else instead.
So, if Ass Warfare had been a T3 - moving it to T4 would have somehow "fixed" it because less people would have had it? It's not a problem with a lot of people having it - it's an issue with the nades overperforming for their cost.
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« Reply #109 on: October 29, 2010, 09:48:40 am » |
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I have a serious suggestion about assault grenades:
Perhaps they could not be changed at all but instead made into a tier 3 unlock. The flamegrenadier whatever guys that have the flamethrowers could replace them as a tier 2. This way less people will spam assault grenades because they won't be able to have them PLUS mines/healing cars, hummels etc.
All this would do is have a wait time before people could use the ability. In It's present form, I can see SE players taking IA over the Hummel purely for the fact that an IA company will perform so much better than a company with a Hummel or two. This is reinforced by the complaints of Hummel's currently being inaccurate. The IA spam company would still be perfectly viable, just delayed in It's deployment.
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I mean I know Obama was the first one in EiR to get a card. and tbfh the Race card is pretty OP. but Romney has the K.K.K., those guys seem to camo anywhere. So OP units from both sides.
At the end of the day, however, stormtroopers finally got the anal invasion with a cactus they have richly deserved for years.
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« Reply #110 on: October 29, 2010, 09:49:46 am » |
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So, if Ass Warfare had been a T3 - moving it to T4 would have somehow "fixed" it because less people would have had it?
It's not a problem with a lot of people having it - it's an issue with the nades overperforming for their cost.
Who said anything about AW? You did not me. I'm talking about fixing assault grenades temporarily. Assault grenades are strictly anti-infantry weapons that can only be used once. They are spammed constantly, but if players would have to give up valuable artillery pieces/scoutcars/ healing cars/ opening barrages to get this ability, he/she would be sacrificing a pretty fun company just to specialize in a one-time-use anti infantry weapon. If you want to nerf it, then nerf it. I'm trying to think a little differently because although I hate them, some players have a lot of fun using them and I think that they should all still be able to have a good time with PE.
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« Reply #111 on: October 29, 2010, 10:01:51 am » |
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They will still have fun using them. It just won't be a 50 munitions instant HMG on the most spammable squad in the game for population.
It will achieve the aim of forcing squads to stay constantly mobile, you'll still kill HMG's with them and probably kill ATG's(or force move them which is the same thing)
It just won't be the Strafing run it is now. Changing it's Tier won;t change it in anyway. all the current shenanigans are still valid
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« Reply #112 on: October 29, 2010, 10:34:54 am » |
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They will still have fun using them. It just won't be a 50 munitions instant HMG on the most spammable squad in the game for population.
It will achieve the aim of forcing squads to stay constantly mobile, you'll still kill HMG's with them and probably kill ATG's(or force move them which is the same thing)
It just won't be the Strafing run it is now. Changing it's Tier won;t change it in anyway. all the current shenanigans are still valid
Yeah it should be more expensive. I do feel that it should be a tier 3 regardless tho.
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« Reply #113 on: October 29, 2010, 10:43:50 am » |
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change IA tier with Hummel
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« Reply #114 on: October 29, 2010, 10:44:49 am » |
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Can't swap unit unlocks with normal unlocks.
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i prefer to no u
Don't knock it til uve tried it bitchface, this isn't anything like salads version. Besides u said a semois conversion would never work, now look that's the most played map, ohgodwhy.jpg r u map lead
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« Reply #115 on: October 29, 2010, 10:45:23 am » |
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I mean move Hummel to tier 2 at place of IA and IA to tier 3 at place of hummel
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« Reply #116 on: October 29, 2010, 10:46:49 am » |
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The unlock section has 3 different trees; Offmap abilites, Unlocks and unit unlocks. You cannot put the Hummel inplace of Incendiary Assault because it would go against the doctrine structure.
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« Reply #117 on: October 29, 2010, 10:55:35 am » |
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So - whats the T3 in the IA tree?
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« Reply #118 on: October 29, 2010, 10:58:03 am » |
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« Reply #119 on: October 29, 2010, 11:09:56 am » |
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I don't see any reason why IA should be a T3. Assault in Blitz is a T2, and is remaining that in the rework, AFAIK.
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