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« Reply #60 on: December 23, 2010, 12:53:03 pm »

Looks like a normal company to me, I wouldn't have a hard time against it with my Wehr account, and there are many anti-infantry Axis focused companies with the newest doctrines that even give my 5+ smg squads a hard time and enough AT to threaten mass armor like my Jumbos supported by allied shermans/croms/stags.
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« Reply #61 on: December 23, 2010, 04:24:36 pm »

Not really, you use the crocodiles to block the ISTs, works like a charm. A PE player has very little that can dent the churchill armor.

Your theory crafting, and if thats said, there is a brit RE player, im going to go with a Wher player with pak 40's to rape the Churchills
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Mysthalin Offline
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« Reply #62 on: December 23, 2010, 04:28:48 pm »

Sherman crocs with bulldozers have churchil armour, Spartan.
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Spartan_Marine88 Offline
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« Reply #63 on: December 23, 2010, 04:40:27 pm »

Sherman crocs with bulldozers have churchil armour, Spartan.

And as the devs say every time someone posts that, the churchil armour on the sherman croc means nothing.
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spinn72 Offline
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« Reply #64 on: December 23, 2010, 04:50:07 pm »

Just remember that games aren't 1v1 guys. I think it's fair to say that all allied players field 4 ATG's or there about, I dont' see a need for much more, but then again, I've always struggled with Americans in EIRR the most out of any faction, so maybe i'm doing it wrong. Really, we could sit here and debate the effectiveness of this company, or ANY company for ages, it's all just a matter of preference.

Think of it this way: If this were before the last reset and this company has raid + the t4 that followed raid, it'd be a pain in the backside for most players, but then again, anything would, because it has 10 RR squads. Some call it using their T4 to the best of their advantage, others call it ridiculously one sided companies.

Sure it's not the best build, if you wanted a good one, ask Elitegren for his current allied account. The build was more to show that either 10RR's and 2 AB snipers can exist in a co, or 8RR's and 4 AB snipers without having to pay PP for a company. What are the thoughts on an incremental pool value system as posted in my last response?

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« Reply #65 on: December 23, 2010, 04:52:48 pm »

And as the devs say every time someone posts that, the churchil armour on the sherman croc means nothing.

I think that nearly halving the effectiveness of most AT weapons is rather more than "Nothing".
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Scotzmen Offline
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« Reply #66 on: December 23, 2010, 04:58:04 pm »

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Sherman crocs with bulldozers have churchil armour, Spartan.

They do?

Is there anything i dont know like this?

Is there anything YOU! dont know?!?!
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« Reply #67 on: December 23, 2010, 05:40:00 pm »

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Is there anything YOU! dont know?!?!

Nope. I even know the patches and meta-game fluctuations 3 months in advance.
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« Reply #68 on: December 23, 2010, 05:49:37 pm »

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Nope. I even know the patches and meta-game fluctuations 3 months in advance.

 Shocked Your either told everthing, or you have to much time on your hands....

Probarly the latter
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« Reply #69 on: January 25, 2013, 06:24:52 pm »

This guide needs to be updated. I've started the work on it. Thoughts about strategy can mature over time, and I think I have a better ability to word insights about this subject.

I'd appreciate some MOD contacting me about cleaning up the thread. A lot of the posts are about a outdated discussion or stuff that has been patched out. Generally I want all posts about churchill armor on crocodile and the pool system removed.

Maybe it would be better to just move/delete everything besides the 2 first posts by me, that would be easy for the moderator in question and "restart" the discussion. After all, dealing with one-sided starts never becomes unnecessary knowledge in eirr.

Thanks in advance.
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« Reply #70 on: August 12, 2015, 09:28:24 pm »

Bump for secret tactics.
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« Reply #71 on: August 12, 2015, 11:19:18 pm »

Oh come off it. YOU stop the weight of companies consisting of nothing but ACs and LAHTs, both LW, and with Henschels. You can't stop ALL the ACs with just Bazookas and ATGs, and using armor just invites treadbreaker spam and Henschels. Then throw in someone like akosi building a company of nothing but nebelwerfers, and that's just SO MUCH FUN AND BALANCE.

Or, let's look at scumtajus' Volkhorde. Yeah, totally fun to chase all of his ,what, 35 or more Volks down in every damned corner of the map in a vain attempt to kill it all?

Or, wow that was fun, the 6 Tiger start in a 4v4.

Yeah, the level of shock value is great and all, but it's retarded easy mode to pull off and since everyone just makes a new company after EVERY game and swaps to a new, equally stupid and annoying spam, how the tits do I adapt to that besides using the hardest counter there is--not opening the launcher?
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« Reply #72 on: August 13, 2015, 12:25:22 am »

acs shouldnt be 6 pop.

or if they are they shouldnt be so cheap with overdrive.
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« Reply #73 on: August 13, 2015, 02:55:59 am »

wire the map if you have problem against backcapping, Volks.
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« Reply #74 on: August 13, 2015, 06:28:15 am »

wire the map if you have problem against backcapping, Volks.

We suggest you keep your wire actions to yourself......




I do believe the spam issues we are seeing now are a result of removing pool.
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akosi Offline
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« Reply #75 on: August 13, 2015, 06:46:18 am »

We suggest you keep your wire actions to yourself......




I do believe the spam issues we are seeing now are a result of removing pool.

by wiring the map, the enemy infantry wont pass it and capture your territory. L2P pls.
and if you have a brain you plant mines at wires, so enemy vehicle gets damaged, or engineers who cut the wires.
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« Reply #76 on: August 13, 2015, 09:13:56 am »

L2P pls.

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I just remembered your elite gren spam. That was hilarious man. Learn that vCoH is not EiR and tactics like this doesn't work. If you have enough mines to block the entire side and your enemies have brain cancer and doesn't have any minesweepers, then yeah. Good strat 10/10.
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« Reply #77 on: August 13, 2015, 01:02:44 pm »

by wiring the map, the enemy infantry wont pass it and capture your territory. L2P pls.
and if you have a brain you plant mines at wires, so enemy vehicle gets damaged, or engineers who cut the wires.

he OBVIOUSLY meant your nebelwerfer recrew wire exploit tactics. l2usebrainpls
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Don't knock it til uve tried it bitchface, this isn't anything like salads version. Besides u said a semois conversion would never work, now look that's the most played map, ohgodwhy.jpg r u map lead
akosi Offline
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« Reply #78 on: August 13, 2015, 02:19:47 pm »

he OBVIOUSLY meant your nebelwerfer recrew wire exploit tactics. l2usebrainpls

i OBVIOUSLY know the game rules because it is right here in the first page of the launcher.

oh wait
SPOILER ALERT:  it isnot.
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