*

Account

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
November 24, 2024, 10:37:39 pm

Login with username, password and session length

Resources

Leaderboards
Unit Price Lists
Map List

Launcher status:
Players in chat: 0
Battles in progress: 0
Battles waiting: 5

Download the mod from Steam
Join our Discord server

Recent posts

Please don’t open this th...
by Olazaika1
[November 01, 2024, 12:46:37 pm]
Required age ratings for ...
by Unkn0wn
[October 05, 2024, 07:29:20 am]
50 minutes cap victory
by Olazaika1
[September 05, 2024, 01:54:13 pm]
Feedback
by Olazaika1
[July 16, 2024, 11:30:34 pm]
Anyone here still alive?
by Olazaika1
[June 22, 2024, 06:49:40 am]
very glad to be signing u...
by Olazaika1
[March 08, 2024, 12:13:38 am]
EiR:R ACA (Art Credits Ar...
by Olazaika1
[March 08, 2024, 12:12:54 am]
Hello, New guy in the mod
by Olazaika1
[March 08, 2024, 12:09:37 am]
CoH 3 Old Guard
by chefarzt
[December 30, 2023, 08:00:58 pm]
KT got buffs, Rug stop hi...
by LittleJoe
[February 04, 2023, 11:46:41 am]

Awards

Pages: 1 [2]   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: Why is ATG sniping still a problem?  (Read 9601 times)
0 Members and 3 Guests are viewing this topic.
RikiRude Offline
Donator
*
Posts: 4376



« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2011, 10:38:00 pm »
you know what, it must be the missing the kill crit that happens to me, or is what i notice most often. i didn't know that happened with ATGs, but knowing how often it happens on vehicles and tanks it makes more sense. ok. case closed haha.
Logged


Quote from: Killer344
Killer344: "Repent: sory no joke i just had savage diorea"
Quote from: Malgoroth on October 10, 2011, 05:03:49 pm
... or a fat ass cock sucking churchill being stupid
Demon767 Offline
Warmap Betatester
EIR Veteran
Posts: 6190



« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2011, 10:59:25 pm »
Quote from: Tymathee on March 02, 2011, 09:49:50 pm
but paks are usually going to get the first shot off though.

who says thats what happens usually

you cant put that argument down
Logged

Generalleutnant of The Reichs Wolves

Nevergetsputonlistguy767
Tymathee Offline
Donator
*
Posts: 9741



« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2011, 04:43:11 am »
Quote from: Demon767 on March 02, 2011, 10:59:25 pm
who says thats what happens usually

you cant put that argument down

depends on whos moving what. Paks are usually stationary while 57s are usually moving around more, so the unit that moves more has more of a chance to be ambushed by the immobile unit, duh.
Logged
Quote from: nikomas on October 04, 2012, 09:26:33 pm
"I want proof!"
"I have proof!"
"Whatever, I'm still right"

Dafuq man, don't ask for proof if you'll refuse it if it's not in your favor, logic fallacy for the bloody win.
Demon767 Offline
Warmap Betatester
EIR Veteran
Posts: 6190



« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2011, 05:54:13 am »
Who's to say either one moves around more then the other? no one.

They are identical units, apart from the obvious AP and cloak. but they are essential used the same way.

I see what your trying to say, although you didnt infact highlight it in your argument. you essentialy say because PAK has cloak its more stationary.

I could say that the abundance of Artillery on allied side makes the PAK more mobile. i could also say Axis indirect fire, nebel and hummel will make ATGs more mobile. but this is theory crafting which is pointless.

Bottom line, they are used similarly in the same way and there is no "usual situations" for either gun. Just a random gameplay style from which playes adapt to battlefield conditions
Logged
skaffa Offline
Honoured Member
*
Posts: 3130


The very best player of one of the four factions.

« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2011, 11:11:56 am »
The dmg is way too high, dead in a couple of hits, hardly any time to move away from it without taking significant dmg if you would want to. Plus the repair options to the ATG itself are pretty limited.
Logged
Quote from: deadbolt
bad luck skaffa>  creates best and most played eir maps
                      >  hated for creating best and most played eir maps

Quote from: Tachibana
47k new all time record?

Quote from: deadbolt
Don't knock it til uve tried it bitchface, this isn't anything like salads version. Besides u said a semois conversion would never work, now look that's the most played map, ohgodwhy.jpg r u map lead
Malevolence Offline
Donator
*
Posts: 1871



« Reply #25 on: March 03, 2011, 11:58:54 am »
Quote from: Demon767 on March 03, 2011, 05:54:13 am
Who's to say either one moves around more then the other? no one.

The cloak feature is what says one moves more than the other. If you're using the pak WRONG you might be moving it around as much as the 57mm, but if you want to cloak, you aren't; unless they removed that change since I played.
Logged
Akranadas' Greatest Hits, Volume 1:

Quote from: Akranadas
Vet has nothing to do with unit preformance.

Quote from: Akranadas
We are serious about enforcing this, and I am sure you all want to be able to have your balance thought considered by the development team with some biased, sensationalist coming into your thread and ruining it.
Demon767 Offline
Warmap Betatester
EIR Veteran
Posts: 6190



« Reply #26 on: March 03, 2011, 02:29:26 pm »
No Mal, you dont just pick a spot and cloak and wait for 2 minutes till something comes, in the back of the line while your team is pushing up. you move your Pak guns in range of the enemy and cloak. Just like ATGs. you move in range and fire
Logged
Malevolence Offline
Donator
*
Posts: 1871



« Reply #27 on: March 03, 2011, 07:02:01 pm »
Quote from: Demon767 on March 03, 2011, 02:29:26 pm
No Mal, you dont just pick a spot and cloak and wait for 2 minutes till something comes, in the back of the line while your team is pushing up. you move your Pak guns in range of the enemy and cloak. Just like ATGs. you move in range and fire

I lol'd @ this.
Logged
Groundfire Offline
EIRR community manager
EIR Veteran
Posts: 8511



« Reply #28 on: March 03, 2011, 07:17:02 pm »
No unit in this game is purely defensive and those that think there are such units are scrubs.

You get the same bonus by moving the Pak and cloaking before the target as you do sitting around waiting for a noob to wander into the fire cone.

Move pak, hit the "C" button on your keyboard = insta ambush bonus.
Logged
Latest Shoutcast:
EIRR Groundcast 11 "The Super Dev Showdown!!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOGm79rXWhU (full version)
Mysthalin Offline
Tired King of Stats
*
Posts: 9028


« Reply #29 on: March 03, 2011, 08:44:57 pm »
Quote from: Malevolence on March 03, 2011, 11:58:54 am
The cloak feature is what says one moves more than the other. If you're using the pak WRONG you might be moving it around as much as the 57mm, but if you want to cloak, you aren't; unless they removed that change since I played.

Sitting in one place with a pak is indeed a very good example of how NOT to use it.
Logged
Killer344 Offline
The Inquisitor
*
Posts: 6904



« Reply #30 on: March 03, 2011, 09:05:19 pm »
Paks don't need to relocate as much as 57s because a jeep/unit can just pass by without noticing it, unlike 57s where you need to move it somewhere else if they see it.
Logged
Quote from: brn4meplz on April 18, 2013, 01:23:05 am
If I get shot and it's a gay medic fixing me up, he's not gonna be fondling my balls while he does it. You can't patch a chest wound and suck a cock at the same time.
Demon767 Offline
Warmap Betatester
EIR Veteran
Posts: 6190



« Reply #31 on: March 04, 2011, 04:56:33 pm »
Quote from: Malevolence on March 03, 2011, 07:02:01 pm
I lol'd @ this.

nub
Logged
SX23 Offline
EIR Veteran
Posts: 356


« Reply #32 on: March 05, 2011, 06:09:48 pm »
Quote from: Groundfire on March 03, 2011, 07:17:02 pm
No unit in this game is purely defensive and those that think there are such units are scrubs.

I might be a scrub, but what about sandbags?
Logged
With Courage shall we Rise,
With Might shall we Fight,
With Glory shall we Stand,
With Honor shall we Falter,
For the Fatherland shall we Prevail.
Demon767 Offline
Warmap Betatester
EIR Veteran
Posts: 6190



« Reply #33 on: March 05, 2011, 06:27:12 pm »
Quote from: SX23 on March 05, 2011, 06:09:48 pm
I might be a scrub, but what about sandbags?
Not a "unit" scrub.
Logged
PonySlaystation Offline
EIR Veteran
Posts: 4136



« Reply #34 on: March 05, 2011, 06:33:22 pm »
What about stationary mg nests and 88s?
Logged
Sharks are not monsters Henley, they are cute, cuddly and misunderstood. They love humans. sometimes they love TOO much. They love people so much that sometimes their kisses separate people into two flailing pieces which are consumed by other sharks in a frenzy of peace and joy.
Demon767 Offline
Warmap Betatester
EIR Veteran
Posts: 6190



« Reply #35 on: March 05, 2011, 06:35:12 pm »
Definition of Units in RTS

"An integral part of any RTS game, the unit is anything mobile that is controlled by the player."

scrub.
Logged
Mysthalin Offline
Tired King of Stats
*
Posts: 9028


« Reply #36 on: March 05, 2011, 07:10:56 pm »
MG nests are buildings.

88s are definitely a unit, though - and you can use them very much so offensively.
Logged
Pages: 1 [2]   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

TinyPortal v1.0 beta 4 © Bloc
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.9 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines LLC
Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Page created in 0.08 seconds with 36 queries.