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[nugnugx]

Fldash basically gave a shit about most people said and wtfbanned the ones who annoyed him... we could go back to that if you want, I would.

I don't remember any mass bannings, and remember fldash as good-gameplay times.

[EliteGren]

Yeah, quite sad that the mod was so active back then when everything was broken balance wise

[Spartan_Marine88]

And your input and that of the communities is greatly appreciated. What is not appreciated is the constant insults and negative criticism given by members of the community.

Please keep in mind. No one here bought EiR:R. So while purchasing CoH may bring some partial rights in your mind, you can not compare it to EiR.

Are you arguing in favor of the right to insult the developers of EiR:R? Why is it so important to insult them. Does it make you feel more important than them, or make you feel better about yourself?
If you point out a bug or major imbalance, no one is going to feel they have been insulted. But telling them the mod sucks or the changes they made recently suck, or saying they don't give a shit is going to insult them.

Members in this community are so absorbed in thinking they have a right to bitch about a FREE MOD, they have lost sight of actually supporting the people that bring it to you.

Something has come up recently in the news and other stuff. You are a prime example, there is a volunteer who donates thier free time to make others happy (example: EIRRMOD) although with such work it is still necessary at times to listen to others to find out what works best. Then there are the others, who volunteer and don't listen, instead they try to cram down the volunteer work down peoples throats saying this is what i do, its free and you will take it and fucking like it.

This attitude has actually hurt all of the volunteering community causing people to not want to volunteer, loss of respect and loss of funding do to asshole volunteers.

It can easily mirror itself in the modding community, attitude like yours is much more harmful to the mod and its development because you get people to not give a fuck, then who are the mods doing this for? themselves? thats not the point of modding in general, never is, never was.

[BigDick]

But first the devs need to be motivated to continue. This is what a few of you fail to recognize.

i don't think that all disagree on that but in discussions how to improve something it's a bit difficult to have no critique with negative touch

ok e.g. i could open a topic when airborne is in about the airborne sniper that would look like following:

Hi, my name is BigDick and i like this mod. I was never good in using snipers actually i failed with them most of the time. But thanks that you gave me this little guy to toy around with airborne armor and the possibility to sprint away when he is in trouble. Really nice unit because now i PWN with snipers YAY that made me putting 3 of him into my company.

I suck as a player; that we all (or most ) know.

nah played a 3v3 with you on PE some weeks ago, was a good game down to the wire but we made it 

[Killer344]

The point of modding is ALWAYS to make it for yourself, as a personal goal or something you would like to that nobody has done before, always, ask Salan... or EIRRMod if you wish.

People doesn't gift free time out of charity to others just because they're nice lolz, that's quite a ingenuous thought.

[PonySlaystation]

Is this really something to debate about? Can't we all just agree that we need to be nicer to the devs and instead blame other people for our problems (jews are a good scapegoat).

[chefarzt]

tank i agree with you in saying that the community has no right to demand something

lol?
or more like
wtf u on
tbh too much discussion not enough progress!

time killer here
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116707/
and here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChW8DpALJpo
ich rieche gern an getragenen socken
ROCK ON
burner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bsG4PqilSo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QRbIeerwm8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9mRYCK--cI&feature=related

[Demon767]

can you give us quotes to where we said "fuck you to the mod"?

[chefarzt]

i dont need to quote

[Spartan_Marine88]

can you give us quotes to where we said "fuck you to the mod"?

Im pretty sure he translates "where is that doctrine patch you promised 2 months ago" into "fuck you mod"

[tank130]

Hi, my name is BigDick and i like this mod. I was never good in using snipers actually i failed with them most of the time. But thanks that you gave me this little guy to toy around with airborne armor and the possibility to sprint away when he is in trouble. Really nice unit because now i PWN with snipers YAY that made me putting 3 of him into my company.

I sure don't expect anybody to be this cheezy......lol. How about something along these lines:
" Holy crap, I used to suck with snipers, but with this new airborne sniper I wtfpwn. I think the sprint on a sniper is a little OP. I suggest the balance team have a look at it"
 You have successfully pointed out a potential balance issue politely with out kissing ass. No dev is going to feel insulted by this kind of comment.

Instead we get posts like, "wtf airborne sniper is OP. Why the fuck does bob do this. Just another example of people who don't even play the mod making decisions. Why did we even redo the fucking doctrines, they were fine as they were. You are just wasting resources on something that was fine. Nobody fucking listen to us."
Then as a community, we sit around and wonder why no one is working on development. Or better yet, we wonder why the other doctrines are not out. Could it possibly be the guy building them said fuck this, every time I make a mistake everybody freaks out and starts a bitch fest. I got better things to do than listen to this bunch of whiners.

So once again I ask this question. If every time you showed up I criticized you, would you be motivated to do anything for me FOR FREE?

[Demon767]

Im pretty sure he translates "where is that doctrine patch you promised 2 months ago" into "fuck you mod"

Well im sure Tank was the only one who ever did that.

Just continue the way it is now. I have lost all interest in playing this mod. Complete lack of development. No communication in regards to promises made. Incomplete doctrine reworks.......
Now we have map instructions that basically tell you to build all maps to look like tante

Seriously, WTF is going on with this mod?

[tank130]

can you give us quotes to where we said "fuck you to the mod"?

Can you provide me with a quote of me saying you or anybody else said that?
To my knowledge, no one in this community has said "fuck you mod"

I could provide many examples of members personally insulting members of the Dev team.
I have made efforts to not single out individuals in this thread. I will continue to do that by not providing you with quotes of what I feel is out of line. I think as intelligent people, we do not need specific examples.

I am also confused as to why you feel you need to defend yourself publicly. I have not singled you out and have only made reference to people in general. The people I am talking about know who they are.

[chefarzt]

Gaaaawd Lucifer come back and give us poor guys a message!!!!

[tank130]

Something has come up recently in the news and other stuff. You are a prime example, there is a volunteer who donates thier free time to make others happy (example: EIRRMOD) although with such work it is still necessary at times to listen to others to find out what works best. Then there are the others, who volunteer and don't listen, instead they try to cram down the volunteer work down peoples throats saying this is what i do, its free and you will take it and fucking like it.

This attitude has actually hurt all of the volunteering community causing people to not want to volunteer, loss of respect and loss of funding do to asshole volunteers.

It can easily mirror itself in the modding community, attitude like yours is much more harmful to the mod and its development because you get people to not give a fuck, then who are the mods doing this for? themselves? thats not the point of modding in general, never is, never was.

Spartan please answer this question honestly.
If you did your best efforts to make soup. Then you volunteered at the soup kitchen in your city giving your soup to the homeless. If a number of people receiving your charitable soup responded to you by saying, "your soup sucks" "this soup is bullshit", "what kind of moron makes soup like this", "I have a right to  know what kind of soup you are making before you make it"
Would you be motivated to try new soup next week. I think you might because you are a caring giving dude who really wants to make a great soup and give it to people for free.
Would you still be motivated after 6 months of doing this daily if the same group of people kept telling you it sucked?

Please answer honestly.

[Demon767]

Its fine tank, im just straightening up your argument.

[TheIcelandicManiac]

Whoever you guys are that are fighting please don´t to far for we dont need to have more people leaving this mod for all that has been done.

[tank130]

Its fine tank, im just straightening up your argument.

Quote from: tank130 on February 28, 2011, 10:42:17 am
Just continue the way it is now. I have lost all interest in playing this mod. Complete lack of development. No communication in regards to promises made. Incomplete doctrine reworks.......
Now we have map instructions that basically tell you to build all maps to look like tante

Seriously, WTF is going on with this mod?

Thank you for finding this. This is a perfect example of the types of comments that are ruining this mod. This post was completely out of line and did nothing to motivate the Devs to correct it.

If you had taken the time to quote some of my earlier posts in this thread, you would have quoted the part that I said some of my posts should be deleted as well.
My comments were made out of frustration, but they are still hurtful and none productive. Demon, are you implying that because I was a complete asshole, everybody else should be?

I am not standing on a soap box saying I am better than anyone else in this community. I am saying the community needs to stop insulting the Devs and show some appreciation for the mod. Stop feeling you are owed anything. Stop feeling like the Devs need your permission to make a change. Show some respect to the people who bring this mod to you FREE of CHARGE.

Why are people still arguing with me about this?

[WildZontar]

Because I find your approach to the situation rude and demanding.

[chefarzt]

Relax mofos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR0weJrAPl0&feature=autoplay&list=PLA135C960D19D7247&index=55&playnext=2