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[Mister Schmidt]

I haven't watched this yet so can't comment on it yet, but sounded fun, and looked good from the intel page.

#20873

http://www.gamefront.com/files/20310812/Castle+Volkenstein.rar

The map if you don't have it
http://www.gamefront.com/files/20313846/8p_Salentein_Castle.sga

[TheIcelandicManiac]

Just to let you know sence i did not see it in the rules i recrewd a mortar and i got 31 killes on it.
allso an HMG but it died fast.
sorry if i broke a rule.

This was really fun tough and i would love to see something like this again.

[Mister Schmidt]

I'm only 3 and a half minutes in and I can already see why Axis lost. The left flank was left completely open :/ You guys needed an MG42 & a Flakvierling over there to spread the line a bit more.

Why did you retreat the 88 crew?

[Hicks58]

Epic flank of ultimate destiny tbh.

[CrazyWR]

Seriously, who attacks from the front when you can HIT IT FROM THE BACK

[Hicks58]

My initial shit got lolwutted by a Goliath though. It picked up for me after that. 'Twas pretty nubbish. >.<

[Mister Schmidt]

Also, Kat, you letdown, most of your stuff was just sitting in the middle for ages when everyone else was fighting. :/

[Katusha]

Also, Kat, you letdown, most of your stuff was just sitting in the middle for ages when everyone else was fighting. :/

Well said, I played worse than even usual. I didn't sign up for the main event because I knew I'd mess it up, but you asked me to replace so I did.

[Sachaztan]

I'm only 3 and a half minutes in and I can already see why Axis lost. The left flank was left completely open :/ You guys needed an MG42 & a Flakvierling over there to spread the line a bit more.

Why did you retreat the 88 crew?

I slipped :/

[Sachaztan]

My initial shit got lolwutted by a Goliath though. It picked up for me after that. 'Twas pretty nubbish. >.<

twas my goliath =)

[smurfORnot]

I told ya how it would end,and knew we were doomed from start. snipers did rape us,you cant counter sniper+m3 withouth snipers. It was fun game,but heavy support company without focus fire is just 2x weaker than pervit pills+markshmen+4man khc. This would be fun to repeat without snipers,or if we also had snipers to balance it out.
Allies just had answer to anything we could field. snipers own mg's and almost all inf,and you cant get em because there is a wall of mg's ,inf and m3 to carry them away. Fire up+ demo for bunkers/88... and tetrachs to kill any vehicle we could have,they even had 57. Luft should had wirblevind,it would fit defensive theme nicely.
But that flank was epic,lulz

[seanconnery]

Yea, that epic flank gave us an awesome position away from the bulk of the axis defenses.  It was a fun game.  It was nice to see large infantry battles. 

[TheIcelandicManiac]

Wait a seckond.

You guys did not see us when the 88 Crew ran past the HT did you?

[Hicks58]

When that happened, refer to Meet the Sniper trailer for TF2.

"I think that one saw me... YEP that one saw me!"

[TheIcelandicManiac]

Here is the chatlog, Hicks on our side was using Vent but i have noidea about axis tough but i guess all of them were using mics.

00:00:12 [All] CrazyWR: make sure things are nice and pretty for us when we show up mmmk?
00:00:20 [Team] ShockCoil: i depoy in 2 10 im gonna rambo it
00:00:21 [All] CrazyWR: i want pretty paintings in the sand
00:00:25 [All] Heartmannsucks: where is the castle?
00:00:27 [Team] ShockCoil: deploy*
00:00:43 [All] CrazyWR: the castle is on the island thingy
00:01:15 [Team] CrazyWR: yea we can
00:01:41 [Team] Heartmannsucks: not so far back with flakvierling
00:01:46 [Team] CrazyWR: ive got 2 recons
00:01:46 [Team] ShockCoil: got 3 recons
00:01:51 [Team] CrazyWR: heh
00:01:56 [Team] CrazyWR: yea in the beginning
00:02:04 [Team] CrazyWR: lets pick one point and try to hit that hard
00:02:06 [Team] ShockCoil: dont we have to wait 4 minutes before we attack anyway?
00:02:08 [Team] CrazyWR: then set up a defense
00:02:11 [Team] CrazyWR: no, i checked the rules
00:02:22 [Team] TheIcelandicManiac: hmmm
00:02:25 [Team] ShockCoil: k so 3v4 ?
00:02:46 [Team] ShockCoil: so whats the deal
00:02:48 [Team] CrazyWR: if you do this
00:02:53 [Team] CrazyWR: you can flip from behind
00:03:10 [Team] TheIcelandicManiac: k
00:03:11 [Team] CrazyWR: less than 2 minutes til im on
00:03:19 [Team] CrazyWR: go around
00:03:21 [Team] CrazyWR: the far left
00:03:24 [Team] CrazyWR: and hit em from the back
00:03:28 [Team] Katusha: is that usable
00:03:37 [Team] CrazyWR: yes they can
00:03:45 [Team] CrazyWR: not sure about sandbags though
00:04:13 [Team] CrazyWR: ill paradrop in asap
00:04:26 [Team] CrazyWR: want a recon?
00:04:32 [Team] Katusha: for cooldown
00:04:36 [Team] CrazyWR: im in in 25s + drop time
00:04:37 [Team] ShockCoil: yea
00:04:38 [Team] ShockCoil: do it
00:04:47 [Team] TheIcelandicManiac: yea
00:04:47 [Team] Sachaztan: omg retreat my 88
00:04:55 [Team] Katusha: wow
00:05:03 [Team] Katusha: should i bring recrew
00:05:05 [Team] Katusha: i need 1 mor pop
00:05:08 [Team] ShockCoil: yea
00:05:09 [Team] ShockCoil: he did
00:05:11 [Team] CrazyWR: ok
00:05:11 [Team] ShockCoil: they did
00:05:11 [Team] ShockCoil: lol
00:05:12 [Team] CrazyWR: well
00:05:15 [Team] ShockCoil: drop
00:05:16 [Team] ShockCoil: gogo
00:05:21 [Team] CrazyWR: in 25s
00:05:31 [Team] CrazyWR: if you use the piats
00:05:34 [Team] CrazyWR: you can shoot hte vierling over the house
00:05:44 [Team] ShockCoil: should wait for crazy
00:05:46 [Team] CrazyWR: no go ahead
00:05:50 [Team] CrazyWR: get out
00:06:01 [Team] CrazyWR: mg
00:06:04 [Team] CrazyWR: smoking
00:07:09 [Team] CrazyWR: medics
00:08:02 [Team] ShockCoil: mortar
00:08:03 [Team] ShockCoil: mortar
00:08:24 [Team] CrazyWR: on it
00:09:24 [Team] Heartmannsucks: no retreat
00:10:03 [Team] CrazyWR: have to cap
00:10:51 [Team] ShockCoil: lol
00:10:54 [Team] ShockCoil: i was like i didnt call on a glider
00:10:56 [Team] CrazyWR: neb
00:11:09 [Team] CrazyWR: medic here
00:12:03 [Team] ShockCoil: oh FFS
00:12:11 [Team] ShockCoil: mando sniper is dead
00:12:19 [Team] CrazyWR: oh btw
00:12:21 [Team] CrazyWR: dont retreat anything
00:12:23 [Team] TheIcelandicManiac: emplace
00:12:25 [Team] TheIcelandicManiac: medic
00:12:27 [Team] TheIcelandicManiac: it aint ehaling
00:12:31 [Team] CrazyWR: oops sry
00:13:28 [Team] CrazyWR: weapons
00:13:52 [Team] CrazyWR: medic
00:14:02 [Team] TheIcelandicManiac: i love this mortar
00:14:13 [Team] TheIcelandicManiac: axis mortar
00:15:16 [Team] CrazyWR: oh fuck
00:15:18 [Team] CrazyWR: wrong button
00:16:00 [Team] CrazyWR: medic
00:16:17 [Team] ShockCoil: where are those stukas
00:16:37 [Team] ShockCoil: lol
00:16:45 [Team] ShockCoil: i got tets
00:16:52 [Team] CrazyWR: nice
00:16:58 [Team] CrazyWR: that seemed like a huge hole in the rules tbh
00:17:01 [Team] CrazyWR: veh
00:17:20 [Team] CrazyWR: come here
00:17:36 [Team] CrazyWR: i have a bombing run
00:17:38 [Team] CrazyWR: when ready
00:18:40 [Team] CrazyWR: arty
00:18:40 [Team] CrazyWR: move
00:18:42 [Team] Sachaztan: mortar crew bugged
00:18:47 [Team] Sachaztan: shrek anyone?
00:19:11 [Team] CrazyWR: stuka firing
00:19:28 [Team] CrazyWR: fuck wrong type of rifle dude
00:19:29 [Team] CrazyWR: oh well
00:19:48 [Team] CrazyWR: we need help here
00:20:04 [Team] Heartmannsucks: sniper
00:20:16 [Team] CrazyWR: 88 here
00:20:17 [Team] CrazyWR: careful
00:20:30 [Team] CrazyWR: nice save
00:21:05 [Team] Sachaztan: look
00:21:12 [Team] CrazyWR: rocket arty only hurts inf
00:21:14 [Team] CrazyWR: err,
00:21:16 [Team] CrazyWR: not inf
00:21:18 [Team] Sachaztan: damn drift
00:21:24 [Team] CrazyWR: so many mgs
00:21:24 [Team] CrazyWR: wow
00:22:16 [Team] TheIcelandicManiac: 31 kills on the axis mortar
00:22:22 [Team] CrazyWR: nice
00:22:27 [Team] CrazyWR: if anyone can get los on 88
00:22:30 [Team] CrazyWR: i can bombing run it
00:23:10 [Team] TheIcelandicManiac: zook and mg
00:23:13 [Team] TheIcelandicManiac: lmg
00:24:34 [Team] CrazyWR: another
00:24:34 [Team] CrazyWR: run
00:24:40 [Team] TheIcelandicManiac: thanks
00:25:09 [Team] CrazyWR: recon pls
00:25:52 [Team] CrazyWR: dont retreat
00:26:10 [Team] CrazyWR: arty
00:26:11 [Team] CrazyWR: rangers
00:26:37 [Team] JustinBieberFan: shrek
00:26:57 [Team] CrazyWR: vierling
00:27:14 [Team] TheIcelandicManiac: falls
00:27:19 [Team] ShockCoil: uh
00:27:30 [Team] Katusha: commandos and tet
00:27:43 [Team] ShockCoil: oh ffs
00:27:45 [Team] TheIcelandicManiac: peease do
00:28:55 [Team] ShockCoil: argh
00:29:13 [Team] CrazyWR: tet?
00:29:52 [Team] CrazyWR: whereto
00:30:33 [All] Hicks359: Btw people, your not supposed to be retreating anything.
00:31:06 [Team] CrazyWR: medic to vierling
00:31:14 [Team] CrazyWR: recon pls
00:31:27 [Team] ShockCoil: got another med?
00:31:31 [Team] CrazyWR: last one dropping
00:31:49 [Team] CrazyWR: snipe out vierling if you can
00:31:51 [Team] CrazyWR: v1
00:31:52 [Team] CrazyWR: MOVE
00:31:55 [Team] ShockCoil: oh ffs
00:32:04 [Team] Katusha: nice
00:32:05 [Team] CrazyWR: fml
00:32:09 [Team] TheIcelandicManiac: fuck in fuck
00:32:11 [Team] CrazyWR: my medic literally just dropped
00:32:24 [Team] CrazyWR: so no more healing
00:32:41 [Team] CrazyWR: draw fire from the vierling and i can satchel it
00:33:59 [Team] CrazyWR: im pretty low
00:34:03 [Team] ShockCoil: same
00:34:03 [Team] TheIcelandicManiac: same
00:34:07 [Team] CrazyWR: lol
00:34:28 [Team] TheIcelandicManiac: sorry
00:35:47 [All] TheIcelandicManiac: heheheheh
00:36:02 [All] JustinBieberFan: told ya those snipers will just rape axis
00:36:10 [All] Sachaztan: Yeah...that was a bit silly
00:36:11 [All] ShockCoil: you guys killed my mando sniper early tho lol
00:36:13 [All] Sachaztan: 0 counters
00:36:13 [All] TheIcelandicManiac: my axis mortar did more than the sniper
00:36:14 [All] CrazyWR: TO THE WINDOW
00:36:15 [All] ShockCoil: stupid mortar
00:36:15 [All] CrazyWR: TO THE WALL
00:36:53 [All] Sachaztan: Axis should have 1 sniper each, or allies houldnt have any
00:37:00 [All] Hicks359: We only had one a piece.
00:37:10 [All] Sachaztan: Yeah, and when there are 0 counters that is 1 too many
00:37:13 [All] JustinBieberFan: ok,I could had only 1 kt
00:37:41 [All] TheIcelandicManiac: well i am out of shit
00:38:40 [Team] CrazyWR: yea im out too
00:38:48 [Team] ShockCoil: still have 4 mandos lol
00:38:55 [Team] CrazyWR: this is lol
00:39:08 [Team] ShockCoil: more mandos coming
00:39:09 [Team] ShockCoil: lo0l
00:39:31 [All] TheIcelandicManiac: well i did quite bad
00:39:36 [Team] TheIcelandicManiac: better
00:39:38 [Team] ShockCoil: we were just better tbh
00:39:40 [Team] CrazyWR: better
00:39:47 [Team] ShockCoil: so win
00:39:58 [Team] TheIcelandicManiac: fuck
00:40:02 [All] Sachaztan: Sure tetrach are hard to counter without any paks or tanks, but the snipers?
00:40:02 [Team] CrazyWR: yea tets broke the scenario, i dont get it
00:40:04 [Team] CrazyWR: but i like em
00:40:04 [Team] ShockCoil: i got 2 more stens too
00:40:05 [All] Sachaztan: niggah plz
00:40:25 [All] TheIcelandicManiac: how many mgs did you guys have?
00:40:32 [All] Sachaztan: I had 6
00:40:37 [All] Hicks359: Lol.
00:40:38 [All] CrazyWR: i brought like 5
00:40:42 [All] Hicks359: You want us to counter that without a Sniper?
00:40:45 [All] JustinBieberFan: mg<sniper
00:40:45 [All] TheIcelandicManiac: they were ripping trough my shit
00:41:02 [Team] CrazyWR: he
00:41:02 [All] Sachaztan: No I dont say snipers shouldnt be there, Im saying axis needs bikes or snipers
00:41:02 [All] Heartmannsucks: fire up, grenade?
00:41:03 [Team] CrazyWR: heh
00:41:04 [All] Heartmannsucks: flank?
00:41:12 [All] Heartmannsucks: halftrack, tetrarch
00:41:12 [All] Hicks359: When theres 6 MG's.
00:41:14 [Team] ShockCoil: epic flank in the beginning was total win
00:41:15 [All] Heartmannsucks: mortar
00:41:19 [Team] CrazyWR: yea seriously
00:41:26 [All] Heartmannsucks: there never were at the same time
00:41:29 [Team] ShockCoil: we had awesome position after that
00:41:44 [All] Sachaztan: Point is, everything axis has is counterable, and everything allies have is counterable...excep
00:41:48 [All] Sachaztan: expect the snipers
00:41:59 [All] JustinBieberFan: ok,next time u can have mg's we will have snipers,pumas,wirblevinds,etc
00:42:09 [All] Hicks359: Lol.
00:42:10 [All] CrazyWR: kk
00:42:16 [All] Katusha: the snipers woulve been alright without the halftracks
00:42:21 [All] TheIcelandicManiac: you guys      should have had Whibles
00:42:21 [All] Katusha: or not as bad
00:42:22 [Team] CrazyWR: yea hts were money
00:42:38 [Team] ShockCoil: hahaha
00:42:42 [All] JustinBieberFan: fear the mighty flamenwerfer

[Hicks58]

You posted it twice. T_T

[TheIcelandicManiac]

Thanks for that 

[Mister Schmidt]

How do you guys feel about not letting your troops retreat? Did you feel they were more, or less combat effective when forced to fight to the last man?

[Hicks58]

Obviously they were more combat effective.

However, I'd retreat much less often anyhow if I didn't have to upgrade my units to vet 2 and vet 3. I'd let them stay until the absolute limit then, rather than think hrm, I think he's had more or less enough.

[RoyalHants]

Just to let you know sence i did not see it in the rules i recrewd a mortar and i got 31 killes on it.
allso an HMG but it died fast.
sorry if i broke a rule.

This was really fun tough and i would love to see something like this again.

Y u soo cheat