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ColFosters
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Sherman Jumbo
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June 12, 2011, 01:02:42 pm »
This unit is OP... Axis Amour other than super tanks (King, Tiger, Jag) have a tuff time able to put down the jumbo should have more HP not able to repel 50mm, MarIII, PAK, please change from pershing armour type. should have panther type
What do you think.... maybe change the name to an EASY 8 Sherman..
http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=1937
just a thought...
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EliteGren
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Re: Sherman Jumbo
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June 12, 2011, 01:05:03 pm »
It has panther_skirt armour
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Vermillion_Hawk
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Re: Sherman Jumbo
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June 12, 2011, 01:16:47 pm »
The Jumbo is far from OP. If it had Anti-Tank capabilities to match its Anti-Infantry abilities, then yes, I might agree, but as of now it can only efficiently kill infantry, and can take on medium tanks only with the Tank Reapers T4 bonus. It's a good unit, but versus anything above a Panzer IV it is outmatched.
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MittinsKittens
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Re: Sherman Jumbo
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June 12, 2011, 01:58:56 pm »
Col. To be fair, The Allies have to deal with things worse then Jumbos on a gamely basis (KT's, Jadgs, Tigers, Panthers) so us having to deal with these isn't really that bad, specially since have better AT weapons for taking them out ^^
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Firesparks
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Re: Sherman Jumbo
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June 12, 2011, 02:15:11 pm »
the jumbo has free skirt (which works wonderfully against schreck) and a free mg. The closest thing the axis have is the panther which is more expensive to begin with and still have to be buy the skirt and mg and a more expensive repair.
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Unkn0wn
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Re: Sherman Jumbo
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June 12, 2011, 02:21:23 pm »
The repair ability shouldn't cost 50 Munitions actually, I don't know why it does.
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BigDick
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Re: Sherman Jumbo
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June 12, 2011, 02:28:45 pm »
the main reason why the jumbo is freaking OP is because the pak38 and 50mm HT is fucking broken against its armortype (even the ambush first strike shots continuously bounce)
other than the AT57mm which can cut through tigers and panthers like a hot knife through butter (thx2ap rounds)
i already opened a thread about it long time ago
http://forums.europeinruins.com/index.php?topic=18270.0
but it was kind of ignored
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Vermillion_Hawk
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Re: Sherman Jumbo
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June 12, 2011, 02:37:43 pm »
Ignored because your points were invalid, seeing as the Jumbo is only an Anti-Infantry tank along the lines of a Churchill (sort of), not the destroyer of worlds. Any armor above a Panzer IV can kill it in normal combat.
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BigDick
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Re: Sherman Jumbo
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June 12, 2011, 02:39:41 pm »
any armor above a P4 is much more expensive too
and not invulnerable to ATGs and handheld AT like the jumbo is
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Unkn0wn
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Re: Sherman Jumbo
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June 12, 2011, 02:42:10 pm »
Moved to balance.
Bigdick, stop exaggerating. If you're going to argue balance, do it properly.
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ColFosters
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Re: Sherman Jumbo
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Reply #10 on:
June 12, 2011, 02:43:18 pm »
P4 can own it... My BS meter just hit full of shit...
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RoyalHants
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Re: Sherman Jumbo
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June 12, 2011, 02:44:41 pm »
Quote from: ColFosters on June 12, 2011, 02:43:18 pm
P4 can own it... My BS meter just hit full of shit...
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RikiRude
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Re: Sherman Jumbo
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June 12, 2011, 03:06:57 pm »
Jumbo only kills infantry and light vehicles, sure, you can get a few shots on a P4 and you can go up against an unskirted P4, but i wouldn't suggest fighting against a skirted P4. I agree repair kit should probably go up to 60, but not much more. And it's a T3 unlock, so I think the free mg is fine.
TBH paks do decent enough damage vs them, you just cant expect a single pak to scare it away though. Use other tanks or shrecks on it. And make sure you attack from the SIDES. That's the biggest mistake I see people making, is attacking from the front.
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Mister Schmidt
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Re: Sherman Jumbo
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June 12, 2011, 03:08:54 pm »
The problem is it has Panther_skirts. Axis AT is not designed to penetrate Panther armour, which is why they bounce so much. And the skirts means that Shrecks actually do much less than they should. I pthought they were fine when they had Pershing armour, but ah well.
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smurfORnot
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Re: Sherman Jumbo
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June 12, 2011, 03:18:12 pm »
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And it's a T3 unlock, so I think the free mg is fine.
So tiger should get one too?
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skaffa
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Re: Sherman Jumbo
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June 12, 2011, 03:27:01 pm »
Jumbo is fine.
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Don't knock it til uve tried it bitchface, this isn't anything like salads version. Besides u said a semois conversion would never work, now look that's the most played map, ohgodwhy.jpg r u map lead
Firesparks
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Re: Sherman Jumbo
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June 12, 2011, 03:38:07 pm »
we can't ever agree on if doctrine unlock should be more cost effective than the non-doctrine units....
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RikiRude
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Re: Sherman Jumbo
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June 12, 2011, 03:41:36 pm »
Quote from: smurfORnot on June 12, 2011, 03:18:12 pm
So tiger should get one too?
no, its dual purpose. jumbo has one purpose, anti infantry, so it gets the tools it needs for that. that's the way i see it. i guess it's harder to judge since it's such a unique unit.
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RikiRude
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Re: Sherman Jumbo
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June 12, 2011, 03:42:56 pm »
Quote from: Firesparks on June 12, 2011, 03:38:07 pm
we can't ever agree on if doctrine unlock should be more cost effective than the non-doctrine units....
im not sure if that's sarcasm. if they aren't why bother unlocking them? why bother picking a doctrine at all? that's all off topic though.
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tank130
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Re: Sherman Jumbo
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June 12, 2011, 03:50:08 pm »
Quote from: Firesparks on June 12, 2011, 03:38:07 pm
we can't ever agree on if doctrine unlock should be more cost effective than the non-doctrine units....
Huh?
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