[CW] Button Should Be Gone.

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[deadbolt]

button is useless without at support, tanks are useless without ai support.

/thread.

[RoyalHants]

Which are, care to list?

[NightRain]

Which are, care to list?

They are not only listed in the main post and mentioned around several times. Therefore I assume you have not read the main post and say to you to read it before you post again.

[smurfORnot]

remove 6pdr this way all brits get to have button,since then they will need it,everyone happy  

[RikiRude]

when playing axis ive never had button be that huge of a problem 

see a bren squad dont get too close, just the same as seeing vet 2 rifle squad in case they have sticky.

i play a british a bit and rarely do i ever get a second button out of a squad.

if the person buttons you at 25 meters, its easy to slip out. and if there is infantry support you can usually kill the bren squad super easy before anything really happens.

could you post a replay of button being OP? not just a replay of someone rushing into a position and getting buttoned.


although it would be fair if it had a start up animation or something since thats how stickies and fausts work. it would make more sense to have a set up animation rather than an exhaustion. or if you have both make them short.

[smurfORnot]

since brits claim that button is actually weak,and that it's not a problem,why even have one then,since it's so easy to avoid etc etc?!

[RoyalHants]

Its not weak but its usefull and tbh and can't see how to do with out it in some situations

[BigDick]

when playing axis ive never had button be that huge of a problem  

thats because you sit somewhere with a medicbunker 1-2 mg42 at least 1 mortar and a nebel in the boonies

its hard to button a mortar or nebel tbh

[smurfORnot]

Its not weak but its usefull and tbh and can't see how to do with out it in some situations

same how us,wehr and PE do it...

[8thRifleRegiment]

Its not weak but its usefull and tbh and can't see how to do with out it in some situations

 lmao every faction cannot be good at everything that creates retardation balance. IE the brits right now. They are amazing at killing everything so therefore any intelligeant and good player is unbeatable as brits becuase they can just trololol counter everything with like 4 units

[NightRain]

There is no need for Replays to show how Button works.

The point is simple: Where do British need their button? No one has answered to this question. They already have their vehicle disablers and if they need more just give them slow mines for tommies but at the cost of removal of button.

The main post already explains the details why. British already have everything they need to handle the vehicles.

Fireflies one of the best Tank destroyer
PIATs has a tactical advantage no other AT weapon have
6Pdr a 57mm
Mines
17Pdr
Tetrach
Stuart. People can argue over stuart but it is a upgun puma, it performs around the same lines, but maybe slightly better.

[8thRifleRegiment]

yea button is not needed its just there as an added lolwtf.

In vcoh it was needed becuase brits didnt have an anti tank gun to stop vehicles early on, so you could get button and use piats, and piats became the vcoh brits ATGs, in eirr you have atgs so button is not needed. at all

[Mysthalin]

My 51stSYorkshire company is an awesome example of a British company that uses, exclusively - fireflies and tetrarchs for AT, and has zero button to support them.

With a 4/1 W/L ratio I think I'm doing alright for myself.

[deadbolt]

way to blow your own trumpet

[jackmccrack]

I calculated the W/L ratio for the top 10 Brit and Wehr players.

British ||| Wehr 1)  3.6  |||  5 2) 5.08 ||| 2.9 3) 3.5   ||| .77 4) 3.9   ||| 1.48 5) .9    ||| 1.39 6) 2.6  ||| 1.2 7) 1.7  ||| 2.08 8 ) 1.4 ||| 8.1 9) .6    ||| 2.7 10) 4.4||| 2 = 27.65 |  27.62 average W/L ratio 2.765  || 2.762

A person playing OP Brits wins games 1.003 times more often than UP Wehr. You have to play thousands of games to see a difference XD

BRITS OP LOL

button is useless without at support, tanks are useless without ai support.

/thread.

[Mysthalin]

Your calculation is wrong from the get go, Jack.

[AmPM]

Especially since W/L ratio does not represent what teammates that player has, who they are playing against, etc.

So many variables that are not accounted for.

[RoyalHants]

yea button is not needed its just there as an added lolwtf.

In vcoh it was needed becuase brits didnt have an anti tank gun to stop vehicles early on, so you could get button and use piats, and piats became the vcoh brits ATGs, in eirr you have atgs so button is not needed. at all

Except to hold tanks in front of your atgs and to stop a rampaging vehichle button does have it's uses and is needed

[LeoPhone]

Except to hold tanks in front of your atgs and to stop a rampaging vehichle button does have it's uses and is needed

oh, allies flank my pak 38s also constantly. Can WM get button too then plz?

[PonySlaystation]

I calculated the W/L ratio for the top 10 Brit and Wehr players.

British ||| Wehr 1)  3.6  |||  5 2) 5.08 ||| 2.9 3) 3.5   ||| .77 4) 3.9   ||| 1.48 5) .9    ||| 1.39 6) 2.6  ||| 1.2 7) 1.7  ||| 2.08 8 ) 1.4 ||| 8.1 9) .6    ||| 2.7 10) 4.4||| 2 = 27.65 |  27.62 average W/L ratio 2.765  || 2.762

A person playing OP Brits wins games 1.003 times more often than UP Wehr. You have to play thousands of games to see a difference XD

BRITS OP LOL

Actually that last percentage is Gorkhali.