Smokaz
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« on: July 11, 2011, 12:21:48 pm » |
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EXTREMELY underwhelming. Even tank hunters and scorched earth g43 panzergrens was messing me up and giving me casualties, and thats with a LT in support to buff their stats even more. I dont even wanna think about how skewed it would be against commandos without LT, or the T4. If TH or SE had been smart and brought munitions HTs to support their AI inf, it would have been completely one-sided. The buffs to commandos need to go up since other than minor, almost unoticeable buffs to light vehicles being three-shotted by different buffed axis AT, the name "Red Devils" imply that it was supposed to buff commandos. Commandos have always been unpopular and underwhelming.
I would look at it reducing smoke recharge time, which is now what 180s+? Which is probably a unfair balancing up against fireup, as smoke while giving you survivability seems to be a affect which a) wont always cover the whole squad and b) you seem to be able to "leave" the area of effect which counteracts your T4, the "moving accuracy" buff.
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| CrazyWR
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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2011, 12:56:10 pm » |
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pretty sure that a) t4s are NOT supposed to make your troops invincible and b) you just got your t4 earlier today, maybe try it a little longer and experiment with a few different builds before trashing it...
Also, reducing the smoke timer? Yea, we need more get out of jail free cards...definitely. Because heroic charge and smoke every 90 seconds isn't enough...
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1. New tactics? it's like JAWS, first one in the water dies
RCA-land where shells fall like raindrops and the Captain is an invincible god
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2011, 01:09:53 pm » |
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If you want smoke recharge cuts go for middle T4. And that alone, tbh, is better than all of red devils  . |
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WildZontar
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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2011, 01:20:35 pm » |
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Just remeber that I had the Top T4, and I completely dropped commandoes because they still seemed fragile and worthless with it, imma gonna go for middle t4
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brn4meplz
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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2011, 01:24:29 pm » |
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The bottom one is the best for seeing a vast improvement over the entire company
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deadbolt
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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2011, 01:35:30 pm » |
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surely it shows that commandos doctrine isnt balanced then, if 1 t4 is definatively more popular than the other choices available.
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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2011, 03:10:59 pm » |
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surely it shows that commandos doctrine isnt balanced then, if 1 t4 is definatively more popular than the other choices available.
isnt that case with half doctrines?! usually atleast 1 T4 is sucky compared to other 2. |
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brn4meplz
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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2011, 03:23:40 pm » |
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Well in that case deadbolt popularity has decided that Red Devils is the best Tier 4 choice.
It has the most players using it.
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deadbolt
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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2011, 03:24:48 pm » |
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or maybe theyre stuck with it after finding it sucks and have to grind 700 more games to replace it :p
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2011, 03:29:19 pm » |
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Tbh the best T4 in Commandos is Enigma Decoded. Followed by RAF support (even though it's not fully working) and THEN followed by red devils, which is just utter shit.
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| BigDick
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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2011, 03:37:56 pm » |
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dunno why people complaining but i use reddevils as my commando T4 and its good
i wouldn't use shit doctrine abilities tbh
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| spinn72
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« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2011, 12:57:47 am » |
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Tbh the best T4 in Commandos is Enigma Decoded. Followed by RAF support (even though it's not fully working) and THEN followed by red devils, which is just utter shit.
+ one million. Still the best, still ridiculously good. Red Devils LOOKS good as a primary choice, but really it's just an accuracy buff. Stack it with the LT and vet and it's.. okay.. But really it's on Commandos. With stens it really doesn't make a difference. They're just a little MORE rape at short range. With blank mando rifles.. well, just no. Pool costs won't allow for you to make this effective at all. Tet bonus looks good though. |
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| jackmccrack
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« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2011, 01:00:32 am » |
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It was better when there was an HP bonus
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Unkn0wn
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« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2011, 05:48:38 am » |
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We probably need to look at some of the abilities in the commando doctrine, it's quite a 'meh' doctrine IMO
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nugnugx
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« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2011, 05:50:36 am » |
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We probably need to look at some of the abilities in the commando doctrine, it's quite a 'meh' doctrine IMO
It's only good for demo spam  |
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| CommieKiller
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« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2011, 05:53:22 am » |
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mando doc is fine
i would say it's op if you can set radio up
radio + mando sniper + piat mando drop on a repairing tank behind enemy line = insta win
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Unkn0wn
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« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2011, 06:48:31 am » |
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Don't know why'd you want to drop a commando sniper behind enemy lines, it has no cloak, it'd be a terrible idea.
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| CommieKiller
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« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2011, 07:06:29 am » |
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sry didn't say it clearly
I said dropping piat mando behind enemy line near repairing vehicles with radio up
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Tymathee
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« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2011, 07:23:22 am » |
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red devils is real good for piat mandoes not so much for stens. and the reload for tets and stuarts is nice as well
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Hicks58
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« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2011, 07:25:53 am » |
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Red Devils + Commando Officer (Vet 2 Lt. buffs straight off the bat) and Rifle Commandos makes for some pretty decent Enfields to be honest.
Not what I'd call T4 impressive though...
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