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Rosette
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Posts: 28
Hotchkiss Balance
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July 13, 2011, 04:36:20 am »
Hotchkiss is cheap, easy to get infantry, and tanks & mobility is best.
need to re-balance on hotchkiss, srsly.
increase pop or increase Pool may solution.
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Unkn0wn
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Re: Hotchkiss Balance
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Reply #1 on:
July 13, 2011, 05:16:23 am »
Oops just noticed hotchkiss was only 6 pool instead of 9.
Aside from that, what hotchkiss is this about?
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doesnttalkmuch
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Re: Hotchkiss Balance
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July 13, 2011, 05:21:47 am »
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and the Hotchkiss is a light vehicle, which moves faster than a jeep
and it cannot be penetrated by (HMG team) armor piercing rounds because it's a light tank. Hotchkiss needs three shots to kill M10, M10 needs 3 shots to kill Hotchkiss... but Hotchkiss does not have "failshots-like M10", so if u have bad luck. Hotchkiss can easily kill M10 if allies player does not deal adjusted damage by using HVAP-Rounds of T4.
PLZ
Simply adjust pop back to 9 and we all are satisfied again.
Cheers
C
10 Minutes replay will show this...
http://www.gamefront.com/files/20544308/10+min+replay+of+fast+hotchkiss+hunting+slow+jeep+M10+does+not+hit+standing+motorcycle+with+3+shots+while+standing+right+before+it.zip
Yes I play US and Wher now...
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LeoPhone
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Re: Hotchkiss Balance
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July 13, 2011, 06:01:51 am »
just about everything you said in that post was wrong doesnttalkmuch.
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doesnttalkmuch
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Re: Hotchkiss Balance
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Reply #4 on:
July 13, 2011, 06:03:06 am »
ok then it was only bad luck...
damn I got so much bad luck in my games
...does my attached replay still work by the way?
Yes I play US and Wher now...
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kwiatekkek
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Re: Hotchkiss Balance
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Reply #5 on:
July 13, 2011, 07:26:44 am »
lololol Hotchkiss is OP , i never thought id live to that moment
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doesnttalkmuch
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Re: Hotchkiss Balance
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Reply #6 on:
July 13, 2011, 07:33:13 am »
greyhounds, M10 and shermans are easily penetrated by its upgunned version...
but is was most likely only bad luck with the dice ^^
Yes I play US and Wher now...
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AmPM
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Re: Hotchkiss Balance
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July 13, 2011, 07:36:27 am »
Quote from: doesnttalkmuch on July 13, 2011, 07:33:13 am
greyhounds, M10 and shermans are easily penetrated by its upgunned version...
but is was most likely only bad luck with the dice ^^
Yes I play US and Wher now...
The Hotch penetrates, but deals little real damage. M18 is as fast as a Hotch, and has longer range, sight, and a better gun.
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EliteGren
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Re: Hotchkiss Balance
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July 13, 2011, 07:38:18 am »
Maybe the PE guy had APCR.
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doesnttalkmuch
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Re: Hotchkiss Balance
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Reply #9 on:
July 13, 2011, 07:40:36 am »
mmmh...
mkay
Did not notice any symbol on the hotchkiss in the attached replay... but maybe it was that way and you simply don't see the ability due to its passiv-ness
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Rosette
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Re: Hotchkiss Balance
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Reply #10 on:
July 13, 2011, 07:44:49 am »
also need to adjust pop
less than P4 IST, more than AC
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Tymathee
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Re: Hotchkiss Balance
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Reply #11 on:
July 13, 2011, 07:56:44 am »
if pop was 6, thts the reason. the upgun hotch is tough to deal with but not impossible.
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Mister Schmidt
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Re: Hotchkiss Balance
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Reply #12 on:
July 13, 2011, 08:09:21 am »
APCR is passive.
And there is no reason for the Hotchkiss to have its pop increased, nor undergo any other nerf, if anything, it's underpowered.
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BigDick
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Re: Hotchkiss Balance
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Reply #13 on:
July 13, 2011, 08:09:36 am »
actually i did not wanted to reply to this failthread because to call the hotchkiss op is just ridicules
pop of upgunned is 8 you fail noobz and its good vs armor but completely fails against inf
non upgun is 6 pop and its significantly weaker than an m8 or staghound
this thread is actually really "für die rosette"
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DarkSoldierX
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Re: Hotchkiss Balance
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Reply #14 on:
July 13, 2011, 08:29:12 am »
Didn't I make a thread to buff the hotch a long time ago?
Everyone said "no no its perfectly fine, nothing underpowered here"
Anyways Hotchupgrun does have very high pen, it also has low dmg and is non-pop efficient like all LVAT assets. You need multiple tetartches/hotchupgun to actualy take a big target down before his support comes.
But the big advantage those units have is speed. Gotta make use it.
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*waiting* 4 DarkSoldierNoobiX pops up to prove how much shit the T17 is penetrating KTs back and Jagd front and how much better the ac/puma is penetrating m10 rear
doesnttalkmuch
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Re: Hotchkiss Balance
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Reply #15 on:
July 13, 2011, 08:39:26 am »
Can u please post some pics of an upgunned and -on the other side- not upgunned Hotchkiss.
I have some problems to identify them in a few seconds.
I do not even know if the one in my replay was upgunned or not... but from seeing it penetrate my upgunned Sherman i'll bet on being "upgunned".
And yes I know I could simply do me a new PE company, which I most likely will do later on.
Yes I play US and Wehr now... and maybe PE, too
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TheIcelandicManiac
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Re: Hotchkiss Balance
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Reply #16 on:
July 13, 2011, 08:41:32 am »
Just click on it and if it has plusses after the unit good against thing its a uppgunned or a stuka one.
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Mister Schmidt
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Re: Hotchkiss Balance
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Reply #17 on:
July 13, 2011, 04:28:16 pm »
Upgunned has a longer barrel.
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