[WM] storm 2xmp44 overprice

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[Mysthalin]

Lol, Elite Armour at the moment is T4-worthy.

Actually, it IS a T4.

You gotta be kidding me groundfire - storms have 95 HP/man - higher than ANY other infantry in the game, period - and they apparently need Elite Armour on top of that AND their ability to cloak?

Storms are actually fine, it's just people are becoming bloody retarded - a trend that has been followed quite furiously over the course of the past 3 months. Sad, of course.

[Groundfire]

Oh shit forgive me for brainstorming an idea master myst.

Let me lick your shoes in a beg for forgiveness!

[AmPM]

Bow to him Groundfire! For he is the reader of the holy RGD!

[Hicks58]

You guys can go and think non doctrinal elite armour is a good thing, while I go and make plans for a lightning war/elite armour Stormtrooper spam company.

[Mysthalin]

Whatever, this community can stew in it's own Fail and AIDS comparable in magnitude only to that of OMG.

No offence to any of the people around here who are decent. You know who you are.

[tank130]

Aren't you guys kinda over reacting to a suggestion? You make it sound like Ground just walked in and made the change........LOL

[Mysthalin]

It's not what our reaction is towards, Tank.

[LeoPhone]

Anyone else think that the solution to this problem is something other than the price of the MP44s?


From what I understand is that the MP44s are balanced against other assault weapons, but the platforms are not equal.

Storms and mandos the only assault infantry with Infantry armor, while Rangers have Elite, Falls have Soldier armor. Mandos used to have Soldier and their Sten upgrade has reduced to compensate, but they have 6 men, unlike Storms and their 4 man squad.

How bout no price changes, but give Storms Elite armor? At vet 2 in vCoH, storms have Elite armor. It wouldnt be much of a change, just something new in the EIRR environment.

??
Commandos have soldier armor.

[Hicks58]

Odd. I'm certain for a good while that they had Infantry armour.

When was this changed?

(Just checked the RGD's and it's definitely Soldier armour now... Hrm...)

[nugnugx]

??
Commandos have soldier armor.

So that means storms are the only 'elite' troops with 9 pool cost, infantry armor and such high MP price?

[Hicks58]

They are the only 'Elite' troops with 95 health.

But hey, that must be irrelevant.

[nugnugx]

They are the only 'Elite' troops with 95 health.

But hey, that must be irrelevant.

that 15 hp more on that armor is like nothing.  4-5 garand hits to bring their hp to normal gren state.

[Mister Schmidt]

It's more the fact that they can survive tank shells.

[Hicks58]

Which is 12-16 garand rounds for the entire squad considering it is four men. Which said squad can cloak.

Your right, being able to take almost up to 3 volley's worth of extra fire (Which I can guarantee wont all be hitting, so lets safely call that 5-6 considering Riflemen are not crack shots) is almost nothing.

It's also the bridge between surviving a Sherman round, and not surviving a Sherman round. Also a HUGE advantage as it means the squad can be shot in the face then proceed to run away or cloak and lul without losing a man - Then let medkits patch up the damage.

Actually, why the hell am I even discussing this.

/abandonthread.

[nugnugx]

Which is 12-16 garand rounds for the entire squad considering it is four men. Which said squad can cloak.

what ?  garand makes 10 damage,   12-16 would be 120-160  and not 4x15 = 60

[BigDick]

They are the only 'Elite' troops with 95 health.

But hey, that must be irrelevant.

95health? you mean 380hp and just inf armor while airbornes got 420 health and airborne armor (by default) or rangers got 390health and elite (by default) or commandos got 390health and soldier armor (by default)

not saying that some suggestions here are good or bad just saying some people need to get the facts straight

and talking about hp of single men without saying in same sentence that other "elite infantry" has 50% bigger squad sizes is either biased or retarded

[Mysthalin]

95health? you mean 380hp and just inf armor while airbornes got 420 health and airborne armor (by default) or rangers got 390health and elite (by default) or commandos got 390health and soldier armor (by default)

not saying that some suggestions here are good or bad just saying some people need to get the facts straight

and talking about hp of single men without saying in same sentence that other "elite infantry" has 50% bigger squad sizes is either biased or retarded

Oh, by the way, if you want to reduce community AIDS, Cancer and Fail by about 50% just ban this guy. Just go ahead and do it. You'll notice a massive bog just lift off the lungs of the community as it suddenly stops suffocating itself in it's own FAIL so much.

[Mister Schmidt]

Look, nug, I think I speak for the entire, and I mean ENTIRE community when I say, keep the hell out of balance threads. Please. Do yourself, and everyone else here a favour, and don't even look at the balance forums anymore.

I can sympathise with Mysthalin because every time I see a new comment on a balance thread written or started by you, I automatically know it's going to be something retarded. I don't just think that, I know that.

I personally, would also deduce that if literally everyone is telling you to refrain from anything to do with balance, that I might in fact not quite be totally on the same page as everyone else.

In short, THINK before you post, seriously, it's so annoying and downright embarrasing to see you posting crap after crap after crap.

I'm sorry for ranting, I know I shouldn't, but seriously, it's ridiculous, and I think everybody here can testify to that.

[nugnugx]

Schmidt this thread says you're wrong.

[Mister Schmidt]

.... Evidence?