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EIRRMod
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Re: Please fix CCT priority
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Reply #100 on:
August 30, 2011, 04:41:42 pm »
Quote from: Illegal_Carrot on August 30, 2011, 03:28:36 pm
There's an easy enough way to create a new separate armor for just the CCT.
Wait what?
You realise 'the easy way' of creating a new seperate armour just for the CCT IS NOT in fact quite so easy? Every weapon needs to be edited to compensate.
Thats quite the big fuckoff job.
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Vermillion_Hawk
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Re: Please fix CCT priority
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Reply #101 on:
August 30, 2011, 04:46:06 pm »
Quote from: EIRRMod on August 30, 2011, 04:41:42 pm
Wait what?
You realise 'the easy way' of creating a new seperate armour just for the CCT IS NOT in fact quite so easy? Every weapon needs to be edited to compensate.
Thats quite the big fuckoff job.
Is there a way to copy and paste values from the current CCT armor into a new armor type?
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RikiRude
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Re: Please fix CCT priority
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Reply #102 on:
August 30, 2011, 04:46:36 pm »
Quote from: Illegal_Carrot on August 30, 2011, 03:28:36 pm
You read the thread yet? There's an easy enough way to create a new separate armor for just the CCT.
And I believe the Ostwind to be bugged, or there's something wrong with the CCT which causes it to draw more fire than it should.
I genuinely played a game where my Ostwind would constantly target the CCT over some nearby PIAT Sappers, and as I tried to micro my Ostwind to kite the Sappers, it would keep switching targets to fire at the CCT. Unfortunately the replay and battle file are long gone, but this is a bug, not a balance issue, so I have no reason or motive to lie about it.
probably ostwind priority, should be highest on any and all infantry.
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EIRRMod
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Re: Please fix CCT priority
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Reply #103 on:
August 30, 2011, 04:48:02 pm »
Quote from: Vermillion_Hawk on August 30, 2011, 04:46:06 pm
Is there a way to copy and paste values from the current CCT armor into a new armor type?
Probably through scripting, but Id have to teach the RGD coders how to do it and not fuck the entire mod =)
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nikomas
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Re: Please fix CCT priority
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Reply #104 on:
August 30, 2011, 04:49:39 pm »
The way I see it is simple, given that a target priority value does exist it makes nothing but sense to give higher priority to higher perceived threats. Simply put, as long as the value is there it should do what it is supposed to represent, in this case the AI giving the priority to fire on certain units over others. You know this, but I feel like I have to say it anyway.
So, of course any at gunner worth their salt would fire at the very visually identifiable Long Barrel Sherman Firefly, because the thing is more dangerous and more importantly, visually more intimidating than a Cromwell, the fact that it is a Cromwell command tank has nothing to do with it, in fact the command tank and normal Cromwell should have the same priority values as there is no way to tell it is in fact a dummy gun at first sight.
Same goes for the axis side, what do you do when you see several tanks including a tiger, you go "OH SHIT, TANKS... OH SHIT, TIGER, SHOOT IT!", simply put, it is by far given the highest priority by anything carrying an at weapon.
This is not a realism argument, it is a "It just makes fucking sense that way" argument, while I suppose you could call baiting a strategy I can also call being very good at exploiting an overpowered unit quirk a strategy... does not mean it's good gameplay.
That is all I have to say, go back to flaming each other now as I seem to be taking this way to seriously.
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LeoPhone
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Re: Please fix CCT priority
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Reply #105 on:
August 30, 2011, 04:54:39 pm »
if I see a tiger and next to it I see a piv I shoot the piv first.
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RikiRude
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Re: Please fix CCT priority
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Reply #106 on:
August 30, 2011, 04:58:19 pm »
Quote from: LeoPhone on August 30, 2011, 04:54:39 pm
if I see a tiger and next to it I see a piv I shoot the piv first.
ditto, depending on health, better to kill the marders before you kill a panther or something like that.
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nikomas
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Re: Please fix CCT priority
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Reply #107 on:
August 30, 2011, 04:59:29 pm »
Quote from: RikiRude on August 30, 2011, 04:58:19 pm
ditto, depending on health, better to kill the marders before you kill a panther or something like that.
Oye, are you saying all the soldiers have the eye of god to?
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RoyalHants
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Re: Please fix CCT priority
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Reply #108 on:
August 30, 2011, 05:01:10 pm »
Quote from: nikomas on August 30, 2011, 04:59:29 pm
Oye, are you saying all the soldiers have the eye of god to?
Je ne comprends pas
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Tymathee
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Re: Please fix CCT priority
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Reply #109 on:
August 30, 2011, 05:03:18 pm »
to be honest...i'd rather have the FF shot at sometimes rather than the CCT as it's a force multiplier. I cried for days when i lost my 200xp vet 3 CCT.
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Quote from: nikomas on October 04, 2012, 09:26:33 pm
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Dafuq man, don't ask for proof if you'll refuse it if it's not in your favor, logic fallacy for the bloody win.
CrazyWR
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Re: Please fix CCT priority
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Reply #110 on:
August 30, 2011, 11:37:44 pm »
THATS NOT THE POINT. Situationally of course it varies but in 90-I'd say 99% of the situations, you'd rather SHOOT AT THE ENEMY THAT ACTUALLY WILL SHOOT BACK.
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Re: Please fix CCT priority
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Reply #111 on:
August 30, 2011, 11:50:25 pm »
Quote from: CrazyWR on August 30, 2011, 11:37:44 pm
THATS NOT THE POINT. Situationally of course it varies but in 90-I'd say 99% of the situations, you'd rather SHOOT AT THE ENEMY THAT ACTUALLY WILL SHOOT BACK.
This times a million. If Riflemen auto-targeted Vampire HTs over Panzergrens it would be 100% fucking stupid.
Quote from: LeoPhone on August 30, 2011, 03:29:37 pm
probably the sappers were out of range but the cct wasnt
The Sappers were well within range of the Ostwind's cannon. When I halted it and told it to fire on the Sappers, it was able to do it without moving any closer.
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Tymathee
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Re: Please fix CCT priority
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Reply #112 on:
August 31, 2011, 12:00:07 am »
Quote from: CrazyWR on August 30, 2011, 11:37:44 pm
THATS NOT THE POINT. Situationally of course it varies but in 90-I'd say 99% of the situations, you'd rather SHOOT AT THE ENEMY THAT ACTUALLY WILL SHOOT BACK.
dude...chill with the caps, i saw the argument before. i wasn't even trying to argue, it was MY OPINION.
Can i please have my own freakin' opinion without someone YELLING at me over it?
since when did it become cool to yell at people for having their own thought process?
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AmPM
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Re: Please fix CCT priority
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Reply #113 on:
August 31, 2011, 12:00:55 am »
No, you may not. That's part of the dev tag.
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EIRRMod
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Re: Please fix CCT priority
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Reply #114 on:
August 31, 2011, 12:08:27 am »
Quote from: AmPM on August 31, 2011, 12:00:55 am
No, you may not. That's part of the dev tag.
Funny but true.
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Tymathee
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Re: Please fix CCT priority
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Reply #115 on:
August 31, 2011, 12:17:37 am »
:SIGH: lol
Quote from: EIRRMod on August 31, 2011, 12:08:27 am
sad but true.
fixed
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puddin
EIR Veteran
Posts: 1701
Re: Please fix CCT priority
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Reply #116 on:
September 01, 2011, 06:21:38 pm »
When i do attack mvoe with a sniper... Why dioes it fire on Scout cars, Inf hts, Panthers even??? WHYYYY?
?
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i cant really blame smokaz i mean playing against puddin is like trying to fight off breast cancer. You might win and do it and be a bad ass but you'll feel sick and mutilated forever.
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LeoPhone
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Re: Please fix CCT priority
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Reply #117 on:
September 01, 2011, 06:23:03 pm »
Quote from: puddin on September 01, 2011, 06:21:38 pm
When i do attack mvoe with a sniper... Why dioes it fire on Scout cars, Inf hts, Panthers even??? WHYYYY?
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i got this noted, will be fixed eventually
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