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« Reply #100 on: August 30, 2011, 04:41:42 pm »

There's an easy enough way to create a new separate armor for just the CCT.
Wait what?

You realise 'the easy way' of creating a new seperate armour just for the CCT IS NOT in fact quite so easy?  Every weapon needs to be edited to compensate.
Thats quite the big fuckoff job.
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« Reply #101 on: August 30, 2011, 04:46:06 pm »

Wait what?

You realise 'the easy way' of creating a new seperate armour just for the CCT IS NOT in fact quite so easy?  Every weapon needs to be edited to compensate.
Thats quite the big fuckoff job.

Is there a way to copy and paste values from the current CCT armor into a new armor type?
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« Reply #102 on: August 30, 2011, 04:46:36 pm »

You read the thread yet? There's an easy enough way to create a new separate armor for just the CCT.

And I believe the Ostwind to be bugged, or there's something wrong with the CCT which causes it to draw more fire than it should.
I genuinely played a game where my Ostwind would constantly target the CCT over some nearby PIAT Sappers, and as I tried to micro my Ostwind to kite the Sappers, it would keep switching targets to fire at the CCT. Unfortunately the replay and battle file are long gone, but this is a bug, not a balance issue, so I have no reason or motive to lie about it.

probably ostwind priority, should be highest on any and all infantry.
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« Reply #103 on: August 30, 2011, 04:48:02 pm »

Is there a way to copy and paste values from the current CCT armor into a new armor type?
Probably through scripting, but Id have to teach the RGD coders how to do it and not fuck the entire mod =)
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« Reply #104 on: August 30, 2011, 04:49:39 pm »

The way I see it is simple, given that a target priority value does exist it makes nothing but sense to give higher priority to higher perceived threats. Simply put, as long as the value is there it should do what it is supposed to represent, in this case the AI giving the priority to fire on certain units over others. You know this, but I feel like I have to say it anyway.

So, of course any at gunner worth their salt would fire at the very visually identifiable Long Barrel Sherman Firefly, because the thing is more dangerous and more importantly, visually more intimidating than a Cromwell, the fact that it is a Cromwell command tank has nothing to do with it, in fact the command tank and normal Cromwell should have the same priority values as there is no way to tell it is in fact a dummy gun at first sight.

Same goes for the axis side, what do you do when you see several tanks including a tiger, you go "OH SHIT, TANKS... OH SHIT, TIGER, SHOOT IT!", simply put, it is by far given the highest priority by anything carrying an at weapon.


This is not a realism argument, it is a "It just makes fucking sense that way" argument, while I suppose you could call baiting a strategy I can also call being very good at exploiting an overpowered unit quirk a strategy... does not mean it's good gameplay.

That is all I have to say, go back to flaming each other now as I seem to be taking this way to seriously.  Wink
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« Reply #105 on: August 30, 2011, 04:54:39 pm »

if I see a tiger and next to it I see a piv I shoot the piv first.
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« Reply #106 on: August 30, 2011, 04:58:19 pm »

if I see a tiger and next to it I see a piv I shoot the piv first.

ditto, depending on health, better to kill the marders before you kill a panther or something like that.
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« Reply #107 on: August 30, 2011, 04:59:29 pm »

ditto, depending on health, better to kill the marders before you kill a panther or something like that.
Oye, are you saying all the soldiers have the eye of god to?  Wink
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« Reply #108 on: August 30, 2011, 05:01:10 pm »

Oye, are you saying all the soldiers have the eye of god to?  Wink
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« Reply #109 on: August 30, 2011, 05:03:18 pm »

to be honest...i'd rather have the FF shot at sometimes rather than the CCT as it's a force multiplier. I cried for days when i lost my 200xp vet 3 CCT.
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« Reply #110 on: August 30, 2011, 11:37:44 pm »

THATS NOT THE POINT.  Situationally of course it varies but in 90-I'd say 99% of the situations, you'd rather SHOOT AT THE ENEMY THAT ACTUALLY WILL SHOOT BACK.
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« Reply #111 on: August 30, 2011, 11:50:25 pm »

THATS NOT THE POINT.  Situationally of course it varies but in 90-I'd say 99% of the situations, you'd rather SHOOT AT THE ENEMY THAT ACTUALLY WILL SHOOT BACK.
This times a million. If Riflemen auto-targeted Vampire HTs over Panzergrens it would be 100% fucking stupid.

probably the sappers were out of range but the cct wasnt
The Sappers were well within range of the Ostwind's cannon. When I halted it and told it to fire on the Sappers, it was able to do it without moving any closer.
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« Reply #112 on: August 31, 2011, 12:00:07 am »

THATS NOT THE POINT.  Situationally of course it varies but in 90-I'd say 99% of the situations, you'd rather SHOOT AT THE ENEMY THAT ACTUALLY WILL SHOOT BACK.

dude...chill with the caps, i saw the argument before. i wasn't even trying to argue, it was MY OPINION.

Can i please have my own freakin' opinion without someone YELLING at me over it?

since when did it become cool to yell at people for having their own thought process?
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« Reply #113 on: August 31, 2011, 12:00:55 am »

No, you may not. That's part of the dev tag.
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« Reply #114 on: August 31, 2011, 12:08:27 am »

No, you may not. That's part of the dev tag.
Funny but true.
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« Reply #115 on: August 31, 2011, 12:17:37 am »

:SIGH: lol


sad but true.

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« Reply #116 on: September 01, 2011, 06:21:38 pm »

When i do attack mvoe with a sniper... Why dioes it fire on Scout cars, Inf hts, Panthers even??? WHYYYY?HuhHuhHuh?
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« Reply #117 on: September 01, 2011, 06:23:03 pm »

When i do attack mvoe with a sniper... Why dioes it fire on Scout cars, Inf hts, Panthers even??? WHYYYY?HuhHuhHuh?

i got this noted, will be fixed eventually  Smiley
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