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[shockcoil]

I would punch smurfornot

[RikiRude]

whoever just killed that vetted unit that i loved 

jesus, just to say i did it.

[Unkn0wn]

If you could punch anyone in the world without consequences who would it be?

Id punch Karl Marx.

Why would you punch Karl Marx? His book has contributed a lot to society, and no I don't mean communism. (Which is an entirely wrong interpretation of his work) That's like blaming the Bible for the atrocities committed by the catholic church.

[EIRRMod]

Why would you punch Karl Marx? His book has contributed a lot to society, and no I don't mean communism. (Which is an entirely wrong interpretation of his work)

I think thats the point.

I would punch Ghandi.  Cliche' I know, but totally would.

[jackmccrack]

cliche?? i don't think anyone besides you would punch Ghandi.

[Heartmann]

FIGHT CLUB! But yea id puch Ghandi to ^^

Why would you punch Karl Marx? His book has contributed a lot to society, and no I don't mean communism. (Which is an entirely wrong interpretation of his work) That's like blaming the Bible for the atrocities committed by the catholic church.

Because Mr. Marx, was the author, while the bible has been over translated and written down via hear say, its easy to miss interpret the bible, But in das kaptial, amongst many of his works, he clearly states the rise of class struggle as a must and he is the single most quoted thinker when it comes to "change via conflict". His work has given several degenerates low level working class ppl ideas of a better life while they just should accept there place and we will all be happier for it!

[EIRRMod]

cliche?? i don't think anyone besides you would punch Ghandi.

It was in a movie afaik.  One guy asks the other who he'd have a fight with, and one guy said Ghandi - became a meme for a bit I think.

Thats why I said Ghandi.

Its cliche as he sort of represents pacifism (amongst other things) - and to punch him is a form of Irony (or lack of morales hahaha).

[Crono]

The Queen of England, who does she think she is, that no one can touch her?

[Spartan_Marine88]

The Queen of England, who does she think she is, that no one can touch her?

You can touch her with her permission, but you gotta ask first (and Obama's wife gave her a hug)


I would punch Jack Thompson

[Masacree]

His work has given several degenerates low level working class ppl ideas of a better life while they just should accept there place and we will all be happier for it!

...

No words?

[AmPM]

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No words?

Work harder to get better or just accept your fail. Communism fail.

Work hard, and get paid for it, pass your wealth on to your next generation. Stop asking for fucking handouts.

[Heartmann]

Work harder to get better or just accept your fail. Communism fail.

Work hard, and get paid for it, pass your wealth on to your next generation. Stop asking for fucking handouts.

+1

[Mysthalin]

I would punch David's mum in the uterus 20 years ago.

[PonySlaystation]

I would punch Justin Beiber. And when I punch someone, they don't get up afterwards.

EDIT: Nevermind, I wouldn't punch a girl.

[Masacree]

Stop asking for fucking handouts.

You're right, the employee whose wage is a fraction of the value they actually produce for the corporation ought to stop asking for fucking handouts. Because, I mean, the capitalist on the other side of the equation deserves all of the money that the employee produces with their labor.

Wait, what?

I think you should re-evaluate who you think is getting handouts in the current structure of labor arrangements.

[jackmccrack]

it's fun to kill the rich and take their land and property

trololol

[Mysthalin]

You're right, the employee whose wage is a fraction of the value they actually produce for the corporation ought to stop asking for fucking handouts. Because, I mean, the capitalist on the other side of the equation deserves all of the money that the employee produces with their labor.

Wait, what?

I think you should re-evaluate who you think is getting handouts in the current structure of labor arrangements.

So the employee, who has put in zero of his own money or effort into the purchase of the capital (machinery, buildings), the purchase of the raw material, the marketing and the sale of the finished good... should get exactly as much as the good is worth?

Could you explain EXACTLY how that would work?

[Masacree]

So the employee, who has put in zero of his own money or effort into the purchase of the capital (machinery, buildings), the purchase of the raw material, the marketing and the sale of the finished good... should get exactly as much as the good is worth?

Could you explain EXACTLY how that would work?

Collective ownership of the means of production?

Nevertheless, the argument isn't that the the employee should be paid the entirety of what the good sells for, it's that they should be paid some proportion of the profits equivalent to the labor that they put into the product.

[RoyalHants]

Work harder to get better or just accept your fail. Communism fail.

Work hard, and get paid for it, pass your wealth on to your next generation. Stop asking for fucking handouts.

+2

[Mysthalin]

I mean, I'll propose a very simplistic scenario.

I, after 10 years of grueling work as a governmental economist finally save up some £100,000 that I then use to open up a small factory.

I employ 10 people, each of whom produces 100 widgets given the size and sophistication of my little factory in a month. So that's 1000 widgets that these people make together every month.

I pay 1 pound for the raw materials to make each widget, and I sell every single one of my widgets at a price of £15 pounds. There is no waste, my widgets are picked up by another company at my factory (so no transport costs) and I do not need to re-new my machinery at all (it never breaks, or becomes obsolete). I pay a 25% tax on my profits(think that's a fairly reasonable, if unrealistically low tax) - hence the simple function to calculate my monthly profit is :

y=(14000 - 10x)*0.75 where x is the (monthly) wage I pay each of my workers, and y is my total monthly profit.

What is, in your opinion - a fair wage (monthly) for me to pay my workers in this case?

(Changed price of my widgets from 5 to 10 quid upon realization there is no way I'd be able to make ends meet even paying minimum wage in this scenario. Actually, £15, if I want to employ someone who isn't 16.)


Also, why should my workers have ANY ownership of the factory that I paid for with my own savings?