HOw ABout THe ALlies

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[hans]

why do we have so less experienced allies?

[SpaceHamster]

because game play wise, it is much harder to play allies then axis.

[hans]

because game play wise, it is much harder to play allies then axis.

why do u think so? give me evidence

[AmPM]

Not true.

It's because most people play allies and have no clue.

[BigDick]

why do we have so less experienced allies?

you are wrong there are many experienced allies in eir but allies are very very hard to master and will loose 99% of the games

look at calbanes or volskinator or doensttalkmuch (poppi) all very experienced allied players but almost zero chance to win 

[AmPM]

you are wrong there are many experienced allies in eir but allies are very very hard to master and will loose 99% of the games

look at calbanes or volskinator or doensttalkmuch (poppi) all very experienced allied players but almost zero chance to win 

No, that's because they suck, not because Allies suck.

[Smokaz]

okay ampm adding you to the list of people who haven't caught on to smalldick's strong-willed sarcasm streak the last 10 posts?

he must be upset about how when anti-smurfing is in I will be able to hunt him in launcher much more easily

[SpaceHamster]

why do u think so? give me evidence

In allies it is harder to counter your enemies builds because of the small amount of specialized units you have, say a panther comes by, your only best bet to take it out with tanks would be m18 and m10. But you cant simply kill a panther with just a single one of these tanks, you need TWO of these tanks, and you need to micro two of these tanks while your enemy only needs to micro one.

and I doubt any one leaves a panther all by it self.

[Valexandes]

I would say the coordination needed to properly support allied units is what makes allies harder.
Tons of people play axis because they have more unique interesting units than allies.

Personally I just like the way allies play better than axis.

[AmPM]

OR, get 1 ATG and 1 M18, dead Panther.

Almost no micro for the ATG, and the M18 is easy peasy.

L2P

[BigDick]

okay ampm adding you to the list of people who haven't caught on to smalldick's strong-willed sarcasm streak the last 10 posts?

he must be upset about how when anti-smurfing is in I will be able to hunt him in launcher much more easily

hunting with what? no smurf? 

i could post my latest smokaz getting roflstomped but yeah i'll keep it for good moment 

[AmPM]

I no want him to feel left out, also, he could confuse the noobs. So it must be corrected.

[hans]

OR, get 1 ATG and 1 M18, dead Panther.

Almost no micro for the ATG, and the M18 is easy peasy.

L2P

says a player that never plays a single game, yea good job

[Smokaz]

Allies are SOOOO straight forward in terms of building a company, but the more experienced players (me included) are failing in sharing their builds. I guess we think its so obvious?

1.  Max out out on as many direct combat units being buffed by your doctrine choice as possible
2.  Never *rely* on combined arms with allies early
3.  Support/zook spam is Strong vs PE
4.  Snipers, RRs and artillery is Strong vs Wehr

Uh.. the end?

[Smokaz]

hunting with what? no smurf?  

i could post my latest smokaz getting roflstomped but yeah i'll keep it for good moment  

Post it man

I know you are scared of when you can't hide anymore

[RikiRude]

the problem with allies is people want to try all these different types of builds and stuff, but it always comes down to BARs, ATG, M10/m18/arty + some special units. Axis have many more options.

[TheVolskinator]

No, that's because they suck, not because Allies suck.

I suck? Then how did I outscore Smokaz/Leo and Shab 3 games in a row yesterday?

Allies lack specialized units that can take a beating. They also cant lolpenetrate armor from the front in most instances (AP rounds only has 2 uses and is pretty situational). Their units also dont deal constant DPS at long, med, and short range; only spotty DMG at medium and then rapetastic amounts at short. They win at short, great, but the issue is making it there without dying. The axis also posses units that vastly outrange their allied counterparts (marder, 50mm, panther, KT, geshutzwagen, 81mm mortar, 88). Oh, and cloak-and-rape EZmode infantry (SF spam is also EZmode, but I try not to use SF 90% of the time).

[Tymathee]

also allies get crippled in a lot of ways axis dont. exhaustion, losing ap rounds when decrewed, tanks who lose effectiveness when close (marders and g wagons dont get rof nerfs on close range) weaker health units, less heavy tanks (1 + churchills vs panther, tiger, king tiger, jagdpanther...lol).

allies, especially americans are very straight foward and you have to spam more, so there's less ingenuity, thus less fun. I love playing axis cuz i can have an ostwind, pak, 2x schreck, hmg, mortar on the field and i can handle anything. A similar allied build would be croc, ranger/airborne, .30 cal and 60mm mortar, which one do u think wins this fight? Axis hands down.

[Mister Schmidt]

I suck? Then how did I outscore Smokaz/Leo and Shab 3 games in a row yesterday?

Luck

[Smokaz]

also allies get crippled in a lot of ways axis dont. exhaustion, losing ap rounds when decrewed, tanks who lose effectiveness when close (marders and g wagons dont get rof nerfs on close range) weaker health units, less heavy tanks (1 + churchills vs panther, tiger, king tiger, jagdpanther...lol).

allies, especially americans are very straight foward and you have to spam more, so there's less ingenuity, thus less fun. I love playing axis cuz i can have an ostwind, pak, 2x schreck, hmg, mortar on the field and i can handle anything. A similar allied build would be croc, ranger/airborne, .30 cal and 60mm mortar, which one do u think wins this fight? Axis hands down.

and then smoke blob arrives and rapes everything