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« Reply #60 on: December 11, 2011, 06:37:02 pm »

I've used them too Myst, they are the subtle winners of the new reward units tbh.

In good hands, they are truly a bitch to kill, especially with their 45 sight range.

They are just... Good. They are kinda what I expect from a reward unit. Worthwhile, but not ridiculous.

The Flakpanzer at the moment shows how a reward unit can be ridiculous, while I expect the half-track with bofors/2 .50cal's is a bit underwhelming.

Lets hope balancing actually balances these new introductions, and doesn't nerf anything into oblivion.
Reward units are meant to be a cut above the rest in regards to resource / effectiveness ratio, but about 110-120%.

OP is OP in anyones book however, and those units that are severely horrible OP or UP will be tweaked.
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« Reply #61 on: December 11, 2011, 06:38:22 pm »

The nashorn is horrible UP. As in, the very old Jagdtiger that had 0.25 acc vs infantry was better than that POS.
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« Reply #62 on: December 11, 2011, 06:42:45 pm »

Reward units are meant to be a cut above the rest in regards to resource / effectiveness ratio, but about 110-120%.

OP is OP in anyones book however, and those units that are severely horrible OP or UP will be tweaked.

Flakpanzer is a good example of a unit which I expect to get nerfed into oblivion.

What would make it alright, is if it had a second or so cooldown after it deploys, and a reload time of 4-5 seconds rather than it's current 2. That'll stop it from firing non stop, and deploying in the face of an ATG and wtf-pwning it. But it'll remain death on tracks to infantry that don't take a hint and GTFO upon it's arrival.

The Wespe is a bit dodgy as well to me tbh... 140 second reload on a 3 round arty. You can snipe off ATG's at will on a low pop and cost platform. I've no experience using the unit myself so I'll comment on it properly once I do.
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« Reply #63 on: December 11, 2011, 06:44:35 pm »

Flakpanzer is a good example of a unit which I expect to get nerfed into oblivion.

What would make it alright, is if it had a second or so cooldown after it deploys, and a reload time of 4-5 seconds rather than it's current 2. That'll stop it from firing non stop, and deploying in the face of an ATG and wtf-pwning it. But it'll remain death on tracks to infantry that don't take a hint and GTFO upon it's arrival.

The Wespe is a bit dodgy as well to me tbh... 140 second reload on a 3 round arty. You can snipe off ATG's at will on a low pop and cost platform. I've no experience using the unit myself so I'll comment on it properly once I do.
All good comments.

I expect these units to be a bit rarer after phase 2 of the warmap is introduced (which is how reward units will be doled out, rather than RPs likenow) - and the 'good' ones, will be traded for at a high rate.
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« Reply #64 on: December 11, 2011, 06:56:54 pm »

Quote from: EIRRMod link=topic=22057.msg387456#msg387456 and the 'good' ones, will be traded for at a high rate.
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Auction Hall?
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« Reply #65 on: December 11, 2011, 07:02:58 pm »

Auction Hall?
Pretty much.

Warmap cards to trade, maybe vetted units too.

Although this isnt the thread to discuss this in Wink

Derail for teh win.
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« Reply #66 on: December 11, 2011, 09:22:12 pm »

Sounds good and all EIRR... granted I didn't read all of this post but I greatly dislike most of the axis reward units, just not needed and a lot of axis rewards need to be toned down.

Under no circumstance should the Jadgtiger be able to one shot plow through ATGs, nor do I think the pretty cheap Jadgpanzer 4 should be able to combat infantry as effectively as before.  Being able to two shot a 6 man squad is insane (took out one of my ranger squads and 3 piat commando squads with 2 shots per).  More 'medium' stuff should be added, not super heavy things...

Like the Chaffe and Super Ostwind is nice, not too overpowered (like a Pershing/Tiger presence) and can be countered.  Wespe I do not like how it's pretty much a cheaper Hummel that is doctrine buffed, meaning more stuff can be on the field to stop it.. it seems to recharge faster.. I'd kill for a 'light' howie that charges faster, takes less pop and fires half the shells too, but that's just my opinion.
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« Reply #67 on: December 11, 2011, 09:44:09 pm »

yo lionell, ever seen a sherman shoot at grens?
it kills the squad in 2 shots.
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« Reply #68 on: December 11, 2011, 10:48:31 pm »

Yo ever seen a shrek squad blow up a sherman?
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« Reply #69 on: December 11, 2011, 10:53:00 pm »

wtb more commonwealth OPness
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« Reply #70 on: December 12, 2011, 01:12:48 am »

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Like the Chaffe and Super Ostwind is nice, not too overpowered (like a Pershing/Tiger presence)

LOL,whats too OP with Tiger and Pershing presence?
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« Reply #71 on: December 12, 2011, 05:37:19 am »

Should this thread not be in the "News and Announcements" part of the forum?
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« Reply #72 on: December 12, 2011, 06:43:09 am »

great find, now lets pick on somebody for this.
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« Reply #73 on: December 12, 2011, 10:30:55 am »

I say Aloha, Whos with me?.
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« Reply #74 on: December 12, 2011, 10:39:11 am »

An army of volcanos 8D
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« Reply #75 on: December 12, 2011, 11:01:35 am »

They seem to all be sleeping at the moment, hekla will be sleeping while the Game Of Thrones Will be recording their shows there.  Undecided
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« Reply #76 on: December 13, 2011, 12:07:18 am »

what are the stats on the us 76mm?

and, will it be buffed by TR?
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« Reply #77 on: December 13, 2011, 01:56:41 am »

the 76mm looks like a slower 57mm. it has the same penetration but its 187.5 vs 150 dmg and .86 acc vs .65. thats it.
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« Reply #78 on: December 13, 2011, 10:44:33 am »

never listen to tym...
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« Reply #79 on: December 13, 2011, 11:31:20 am »

never listen to tym...

i just looked at the rgds. i typed up what i saw. penetration values are the exact same for the 76mm and the 57mm for individual and for the base penetration.

if it was supposed to be something else, it isn't. Or i found the wrong entry.
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