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Author Topic: Balanced Company thread A.W. (after weaponcache)  (Read 21867 times)
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hans Offline
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« Reply #40 on: December 19, 2011, 12:14:59 pm »

cool  Grin
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« Reply #41 on: December 19, 2011, 12:16:20 pm »

cool  Grin
Post spamming nub
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Yeah calbanes, I mean - some people like smokaz are still yet to win a single game, even though they've been around here for years.

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« Reply #42 on: December 20, 2011, 12:34:01 pm »

seems to me,that cache is actually forcing you to make spam coy,since balanced ones are being more punished. So it is failing utterly at one thing it was supposed to balance,thus,creating actually more spam environment  Roll Eyes 
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« Reply #43 on: December 20, 2011, 12:43:31 pm »

seems to me,that cache is actually forcing you to make spam coy,since balanced ones are being more punished. So it is failing utterly at one thing it was supposed to balance,thus,creating actually more spam environment  Roll Eyes 


Thats just because they haven't 'tweaked' the numbers.
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Poppi Offline
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« Reply #44 on: December 20, 2011, 12:59:10 pm »

Anybody got a AB company? Without a sniper?
Seems having AB units in a AB company is a bad thing. A few LMGs and RR left no room for Bars.
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hans Offline
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« Reply #45 on: December 20, 2011, 01:06:01 pm »

Anybody got a AB company? Without a sniper?
Seems having AB units in a AB company is a bad thing. A few LMGs and RR left no room for Bars.

WHOAT? i haz bars
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Smokaz Offline
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« Reply #46 on: December 20, 2011, 01:55:25 pm »

Anybody got a AB company? Without a sniper?
Seems having AB units in a AB company is a bad thing. A few LMGs and RR left no room for Bars.

Your supposed to make do without them.
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« Reply #47 on: December 20, 2011, 06:51:43 pm »

Anybody got a AB company? Without a sniper?
Seems having AB units in a AB company is a bad thing. A few LMGs and RR left no room for Bars.

My AB Company

2 - AB HMG
2 - AB Mortar
1 - AB Rifle - Full Upgrades
1 - AB Rifle - Grenades
2 - Rifles Bar & Grenade
3 - Rifles Bar
3 - AB - RR's
4 - AB ATG - All AP Rounds
2 - Quad - All Repairs
2 - Sherman Crocs - All repairs &  All Bulldozer
2 - Sherman - All upgun, all 50 cal, all repairs
5 - AB Rifle - no upgrades
1 - HT
1 - Jeep
 

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« Reply #48 on: December 20, 2011, 07:12:57 pm »

Here's an entertaining 'Balanced' Terror company you can make:

12 x Oak-KCH w/Medkits
7 x Geschitz w/Repairs
4 x Ambulance w/Repairs
1 x Bike for lulz

Tier 2 Fu and Tier 2 Mu unlocks. Get patch and run unlocked, then watch the ensuring lulz.
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I mean I know Obama was the first one in EiR to get a card. and tbfh the Race card is pretty OP. but Romney has the K.K.K., those guys seem to camo anywhere. So OP units from both sides.
At the end of the day, however, stormtroopers finally got the anal invasion with a cactus they have richly deserved for years.
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« Reply #49 on: December 21, 2011, 01:02:49 am »

lol,schmidt replied how happy he is about cache,cuz he wont have to face 8xKCH any more,lololol
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« Reply #50 on: December 21, 2011, 01:54:37 am »

Here's an entertaining 'Balanced' Terror company you can make:

12 x Oak-KCH w/Medkits
7 x Geschitz w/Repairs
4 x Ambulance w/Repairs
1 x Bike for lulz

Tier 2 Fu and Tier 2 Mu unlocks. Get patch and run unlocked, then watch the ensuring lulz.

The thing is, this isnt overpowered. It's not even a fantastic combo. If the allies have at guns, geschutzwagens can't clear threats to the kch cost-effectively. Even with fausts this build isn't amazing. Geschutzwagens themsleves - aren't amazing. Their cheap for a reason, because their penetration and accuracy isn't that good.

I had a terror with 8 x vet 3 kch with fausts, before jonny cache came to make EIRR less of a game. It wasn't very amazing. It was a highly specialized company that did best in 3v3s where other people could mortar atgs. Its immunities did not outperform its disadvantages.

Introducing a mortar - a p4 - some shrek grens - pio flamers, sniper a mg, actually makes for a better build than pure kch + geschutz. However if the axis player building the company know he will face a guy like volskinator with zero imagination in his own build; mass bars and upgun shermans (no flamers, no crocs, 1 atg a time) then the build is giving a actual advantage. But then guess what? Suddendly volskinators teammate shows up with churchill crocs w/hull down ignoring geschutzwagens completely and just roasting the kch.
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Poppi Offline
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« Reply #51 on: December 21, 2011, 03:21:20 am »

The thing is, this isnt overpowered. It's not even a fantastic combo. If the allies have at guns, geschutzwagens can't clear threats to the kch cost-effectively. Even with fausts this build isn't amazing. Geschutzwagens themsleves - aren't amazing. Their cheap for a reason, because their penetration and accuracy isn't that good.



This happened a few months back so maybe things changed. People were complaining about how crappy Gwagons were, so Puddin ran with like 5+ of them on the field at once. Their suppressive MG upgrade and main gun stomped infantry and were able to blow up several ATGs before they got off a second shot since they can out manuever and out number them and tanks were useless as well. They really cut there way through the map
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« Reply #52 on: December 21, 2011, 03:33:52 am »

Geschutzwagens themsleves - aren't amazing. Their cheap for a reason, because their penetration and accuracy isn't that good.

wow didn't you was the one that find the marders amazing? i don't wanna destroy your little world but gaywaggons have the same amazing accuracy and penetration as marders  Huh Huh Huh
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« Reply #53 on: December 21, 2011, 03:34:59 am »

Yeah, I love geschutzwagen lockdown. Cool

noob when are you going to come to launcher so i can whup your ass
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« Reply #54 on: December 21, 2011, 03:36:49 am »

locked down marders are worse than not lock downed marders simply because you will get shot at least once by ATGs vs decent players. and i dont trade my marders hp for a little more dmg or better penetration, they are just too valuable for me as a pe player who depends on marders who cant be recrewed and are not a durable as ATGs
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« Reply #55 on: December 21, 2011, 03:40:34 am »

Blah, blah, theorycrafting. To that I could say that the marder is a lot faster to redeploy to another flank and that a grenade won't decrew the marder.

It doesn't change that BigBrain (german Tym) forgot about the lockdown. Its his fault for not mentioning it.

You guys always assume that there is some kind of perfect combined arms meeting each other in the middle where everyone is shooting from their max range and having mg + sticky/shrek backing each other up. What about when a churchill is charging without support, or the extreme flank allows the marder to operate a while without facing atgs?
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« Reply #56 on: December 21, 2011, 03:43:32 am »

Yeah, I love geschutzwagen lockdown. Cool

noob when are you going to come to launcher so i can whup your ass

sorry to disappoint you but accuracy is not affected at all, penetration is but its a trade between being unable to backup and having buffs

and i don'T think that 0.32 vs 0.43 penetration vs pershing makes the difference between crap and op like you try to point out

but i agree as far as i would keep as wehr always at least 2 remanable paks in my company than relying just on gaywaggons
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« Reply #57 on: December 21, 2011, 03:46:09 am »

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10.5 sight
-25% reload
+35% penetration
-35% recieved accuracy
+10% damage

Completely insignificant!

Hey German-Tym, where did I mention lockdown affecting accuracy? he he he, getting easier old chump
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« Reply #58 on: December 21, 2011, 03:48:23 am »

told you, for me the buffs you gain with lock down are not worth potentionally losing HP on the marder. ofc, i sometimes lock them down but only if im really 100% out of range of any atg and on a street.
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« Reply #59 on: December 21, 2011, 03:49:27 am »

quick log in and out of the forum bigTym! you must have the last word in the argument where you are wrong

germany4ever!
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