tank130
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« on: December 30, 2011, 06:52:06 pm » |
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It appears that Storms are able to uncloak my sniper before I uncloak them. Is this supposed to be this way?
Storms - 300 MP (optional mp40 = 95Muni or x4 = 130 Muni)
Sniper - 540MP / 200 Muni
Even if they have the same sight it is unbalanced IMO.
TankEdit:
Leo has confirmed that Sniper will decloak at the same time as any other cloaked unit.
With the sniper being so much more expensive, should it be uncloaked that easy?
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« Last Edit: December 30, 2011, 07:17:23 pm by tank130 »
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LeoPhone
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« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2011, 07:01:55 pm » |
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don't u usually post shit like this in the coding forum?
lol.
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tank130
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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2011, 07:03:28 pm » |
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don't u usually type shit like this in the coding forum?
lol.
Well, I was looking for input form other people who may have experienced it. It's too bad you couldn't have posted some relative RGD information to help...... |
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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2011, 07:06:01 pm » |
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Just looked at the RGD's and I'm fairly sure both have a detection range of 7.
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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2011, 07:15:04 pm » |
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It appears that Storms are able to uncloak my sniper before I uncloak them. Is this supposed to be this way?
Storms - 300 MP (optional mp40 = 95Muni or x4 = 130 Muni)
Sniper - 540MP / 200 Muni
Even if they have the same sight it is unbalanced IMO.
issues with a cloaked assault unit? NEVER |
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tank130
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« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2011, 07:17:45 pm » |
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Edited OP
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LeoPhone
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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2011, 07:24:59 pm » |
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So the discussion point now is:
With the sniper being so much more expensive, should it be uncloaked that easy by stormtroopers?
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« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2011, 11:08:57 pm » |
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Price is irrelevant, the question is do we want storms to be a counter to snipers, or the other way around?
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« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2011, 11:33:18 pm » |
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IMHO nothing needs changing here. If storms DO decloak the sniper before they uncloak themselves then it is fine also, there is an inherent balance here since the american sniper also uncloaks paks before he gets uncloaked. We can either keep this or make all units reveal themselves when they reveal another unit (which I do not like even though it would be consistent)
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« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2011, 03:52:18 am » |
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Sniper will decloak at the same time as any other cloaked unit if he runs into them (tested on storms, wm sniper, falls)
I guess you could get luftwaffe top t3 and bottom t3 tho. then luftwaffe would decloak units before they are decloaked.
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« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2011, 05:56:20 am » |
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if its the same as vcoh then sniper will decloak storms before storms decloak sniper
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LeoPhone
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« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2011, 06:14:04 am » |
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if its the same as vcoh then sniper will decloak storms before storms decloak sniper
nope. in vcoh they decloak at the same time too. |
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« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2011, 12:33:38 pm » |
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i feel that storms would have better detection than a sniper, since hey it's four dudes. but either way how often does this happen? if storms are on the field you have to make sure you watch your sniper and know that you dont want them running into each other.
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« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2011, 03:30:53 pm » |
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i feel that storms would have better detection than a sniper, since hey it's four dudes. but either way how often does this happen? if storms are on the field you have to make sure you watch your sniper and know that you dont want them running into each other.
It is often (read always) argued that Storms ability to sneak up on you in red cover is justified with their high cost. Even more so, a double shrek squad can sneak up in the middle of a field and pretty much completely destroy most vehicles in one volley / or two. This again is considered ok because of the high muni investment. As well, this high cost, high damage unit is only 5 pop. So with that in mind: Storms - 300 MP (optional mp40 = 95Muni or x4 = 130 Muni) or (optional 1 Shrek = 140 Mun or 2 Shrek = 270) Sniper - 540MP / 200 Muni So the sniper is 2 more in pop, 240 more man power, and 100/70 more munis as an AI unit. Comparing as an anti tank unit is rather pointless, but even then it is more in option 1 and only slightly less in option 2. The sniper is 80% more manpower and 40% more pop. How can anyone possibly justify the sniper and storms de-cloaking each other at the same time? IMO, the sniper should have sight on the storms first, by a significant distance at that. |
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« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2011, 03:45:31 pm » |
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IMO, the sniper should have sight on the storms first, by a significant distance at that.
So with all of what you said in mind. No why? because if your sniper is being hunted down by cloaked storms LOL! you deserve it |
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« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2011, 03:47:50 pm » |
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sniper is a support unit not frontline??
sounds very fail tank.
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« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2011, 04:08:42 pm » |
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The thing that makes it easier to find snipers with storms is the fact that people try to steer them clear of their own troops...
It gets significantly harder if somone keeps a jeep or an infartry unit closeby, or even an armor unit.
Then again, this is done to keep them clear from random fire...
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« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2011, 04:22:01 pm » |
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sniper is a support unit not frontline??
sounds very fail tank.
What the hell kind of argument is that? That would be like saying my Tanks should not be affected by your AT because the tank is front line and the AT is support.....lol |
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« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2011, 04:23:57 pm » |
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What the hell kind of argument is that?
That would be like saying my Tanks should not be affected by your AT because the tank is front line and the AT is support.....lol
and they arent affected by AT that way? atg vs tank results in tank killing atg with atg only getting 1/2 hits. |
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« Reply #19 on: December 31, 2011, 04:25:42 pm » |
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atg vs tank results in tank killing atg with atg only getting 1/2 hits.
Orly? Pak 40 VS CCT? |
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