Rocket Artillery

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Re: Rocket Artillery

« Reply #80 on: February 09, 2012, 03:34:33 pm »

Nightrain is NugNug.


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Re: Rocket Artillery

« Reply #81 on: February 09, 2012, 03:39:52 pm »

If the Captain dies before dropping any FOO, it's 100 munitions wasted, on top of the Captain's initial cost.

Offmaps suffer no such restrictions, which is why they have limited uses.

Your also basing your argument on every Axis player in EiRR being fucking idiots, and every single British player having perfect micro, battlefield awareness and a near psychic grade ability to predict their enemy's actions. After all, you'd need those tools to ward off every single cloaked MP44 Stormtrooper ambush, AI clowncar rush on a flank, etc, etc...


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Re: Rocket Artillery

« Reply #82 on: February 09, 2012, 03:44:10 pm »

If the Captain dies it's 100 munitions wasted, on top of the Captain's cost, in addition to six uses of FOO*

*according to NightRain


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Re: Rocket Artillery

« Reply #83 on: February 09, 2012, 04:17:51 pm »

It is irrelevant how the captain stays alive, you can keep it at your own spawn for the heck of it. As long as it lives, it will have unlimited ammount of FOOs which still remains on the timer.


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Re: Rocket Artillery

« Reply #84 on: February 09, 2012, 04:28:08 pm »

Quote from: NightRain on February 09, 2012, 04:17:51 pm

It is irrelevant how the captain stays alive, you can keep it at your own spawn for the heck of it. As long as it lives, it will have unlimited ammount of FOOs which still remains on the timer.

According to your logic then all arty is OP. Doesn't matter if a tetartch/p4/whatever can easily kill a hummel/priest/howee, as long as it lives, it will have a unlimited amount of arty barages which still remains on a timer.


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Re: Rocket Artillery

« Reply #85 on: February 09, 2012, 04:43:26 pm »

Quote from: DarkSoldierX on February 09, 2012, 04:28:08 pm

That's where you fail and assume wrong. My logic is this: A unit with OFFMAPS as a ability and on cooldown =/= On map artillery piece. They are two different things and are separated in terms of pop and cost.

Captain's power is the fact that for 100 munitions and 2-3 pop you practically have unlimited supply of offmaps at your disposal. The main issue in this case is the offmap's strenght. FOO by itself is already powerful. The first shell that hits suppresses and pins anyone within radious (if not gibbed by direct hit) and the remaining shells will devestate the whole area.

While I personally agree that all offmaps should be tied to units like this. They should not come in unlimited numbers. Was it Officer barrage, Rocket arty, howizer barrage whatsoever.


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Re: Rocket Artillery

« Reply #86 on: February 09, 2012, 04:48:23 pm »

Your a one man crusade nightrain


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Re: Rocket Artillery

« Reply #87 on: February 09, 2012, 10:07:46 pm »

While true, the Cpt has a very long timer, much much longer than any other on field arty.

The RCA buffed 25lbr is much more dangerous. The Cpt is mostly useful early game when you want to push without spending 7 pop on the 25lbr.


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Fiddle Offline

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Re: Rocket Artillery

« Reply #88 on: February 10, 2012, 06:41:12 am »

If you kill a captain fast enough, his FOO gets canceled.

Also, there's tons of shit to deal with support spam...

105/Priest/25lber/Calliope/Hummel/wespe or counter support like mortars/sniper/nebelwerfer/stuka/88flakbarrage

Another problem with offmaps is the recon run and intelligence reveal...Just makes things too easy.

Stuka dive bomb is also up there on my list of aggravating things that are hard to dodge.

Offmaps imo just go against what I wish EIR gameplay was...You should be calling units on that can counter what's giving you issues...not simply clicking a little box, clicking on what you want to go away and trololing. Flak88 just got set up? I choose you 25lber. (instead of herpderp click recon and offmap the shit out of it)