Wargame: Europe Escalation = EIR of RUSE style..

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[lionel23]

There were too many choppers to be stopped by SAMs and Tunguska, in fact, we destroyed their AA with Helicopters during that fight.

As for expensive, my UH-1C HOGs cost me 25 points each and launch 98 rockets per minute. They DESTROY any soft unit like AA. I can easily take out any AA with an equal points cost of choppers. I think in that game I had about 45 UH-1C's of various armament (dual rocket rack, rocket rack and 40mm grenade launcher, miniguns and dual rocket rack) as well as some Heli mounted infantry and ATGM's just in case with some Stinger toting AA choppers running around as well.

IF 3 players mass spam something aggressive like choppers (and you only need to hunt and kill all their command vehicles to win a game) there is nothing you can do except hope you spent half you points on AA...which leads to you getting rolled by armor.

There are definitely some balance issues, but it's fun just to troll. The only downside is I have never had a feeling of "intensity" in this game, whereas in EIRR in a good game I get that good ol' pucker feeling.

Not quite so Am, infantry and APCs can EASILY counter heli hordes.  40-man squads, with Stingers, armored APCs that all have machine guns.  I can easily field in a normal gme close to 50 APCs and 500 infantry, more than half armed with stingers and half with Laws.  I'm no way weak vrs armor for countering the air, and I will more than earn my cost back by downing the helis if they penetrate an APC (which I watch their health and pop out to not lose the squad while the convoy keeps rolling).  Also add in my vulcan AA units, I can mass stun several helis with their 8 accuracy gatling guns

Or heck just a handful of AA gatling units too, if I was really afraid of air I'd take 8 of the vulcans (and they are cheap too) and someone else can take AA helis or Rolands (SAM sites), all of which will kill tons of helis and you'd be hard pressed to get their cost back.

And yeah Zontar, every side has special infantry.  Recon type and very few men, but way better combat stats than normal mainline infantry (and usually HAS to be deployed by air, which makes their base cost higher).

And actually Computer after that game with you, I like the new russian infantry change.  Warsaw still has a basic infantry equivalent (I think its the Polish infantry I'm using, will get name when I get home) while the Russian militia infantry is more a cheap defense or assault spam squad, since you can get 40 of them.  A handful of super cheap squads that you don't mind losing over a chunky 40 man standard squad.

[Demon767]

Lionel, is there any grind? can i just jump in with you and start owning up shit

is there tactics involved, or is it just, recon them, tell teammates to bring the right counter, rince and repeat?

[Jodomar]

There is micro involved because facing your front armor matters. Like a game I just played mass hordes of tanks where coming up on my challenger and it was about to be flanked so I microed it to always show front armor and victory for me was insured. It is about spotting, and having the right counter but it's also coming up with a game plan before the match even starts. I would compare it to EIR and I have had o shit moments and moments of hilarious laughter just like EIR. Right now your units don't retain vet outside the match and I'm not sure if that is going to stay that way or not. You do lvl up and with each lvl up you get stars which you then spend to buy new units.

[nikomas]

Challengers... Basically, can only get penetrated by roughly 10% of the tanks in the game from the front and can even deflect ATGM hits someties... They take 3 anti tank missile hits to kill and you can normally back them out before that happens, toughest tanks in the game.

Like someone merged the good parts about the KT and Tiger in CoH 

[Demon767]

obviously the devs are brit bias

[RoyalHants]

Challengers... Basically, can only get penetrated by roughly 10% of the tanks in the game from the front and can even deflect ATGM hits someties... They take 3 anti tank missile hits to kill and you can normally back them out before that happens, toughest tanks in the game.

What?

Who have you been playing? Chally's take 2 direct hits from any ATGM and their dead trust  me i know, they barely ever deflect them and it takes for everif your not on a road or have a forest to hide behind to get them out of harms way

[smurfORnot]

Now to find £30 from somewhere. -.-'

why not get it from that poland sites for around 12 pounds?

[Hicks58]

Because I get this feeling they don't ship English variants of the game tbh.

If they do, then it's worth investigating.

[smurfORnot]

doesnt game have like english menu,even if it+s bought in poland?

[nikomas]

What?

Who have you been playing? Chally's take 2 direct hits from any ATGM and their dead trust  me i know, they barely ever deflect them and it takes for everif your not on a road or have a forest to hide behind to get them out of harms way

What game have YOU been playing? An atgm hit will take 1-4 boxes of health of a challenger depending on missile strength from the front, they have 10 boxes I think.

[RoyalHants]

What game have YOU been playing? An atgm hit will take 1-4 boxes of health of a challenger depending on missile strength from the front, they have 10 boxes I think.

Hmmm maybe 3 then, but i can hardly tell from the fuck ton of Fagot missiles which get shot out of forests from 2500m away

[Hicks58]

Lol, fagot missles.

[AmPM]

I think that the AP value shown is an average, there must be a variable of some type included and that the damage through armor is that modified AP - Armor value.

So AP 10 + 3 for the random roll - 10 for Armor is 3 boxes. Something like that.

Also, tanks die soooo easy to the proper counters. Bradleys and TD's go through T-80's like nothing.

[RoyalHants]

Lol, fagot missles.

Hate the Fuck'in things. When i see someone spamming them i take my tanks and hide in a corner with no forests

[Hicks58]

Should go gank that shit with some SAS.

England 4 life!

[nikomas]

Fagot missiles fired from infartry team take a consistent grand total of 1 box from the front of a challenger, I should know, I tanked infartry squads with one today...

Now, Bastion and Konkur missiles, that's another matter altogether, they take 3-4 per hit

[RoyalHants]

Fagot missiles fired from infartry team take a consistent grand total of 1 box from the front of a challenger, I should know, I tanked infartry squads with one today...

Now, Bastion and Konkur missiles, that's another matter altogether, they take 3-4 per hit

Meh i just steer clear of all missiles now


Anyway with a some baby-siting= rape

[AmPM]

Cool story, looks like they didn't bring the right counters.

[Sachaztan]

Cool story, looks like they didn't bring the right counters.

RoyalHants reaction:

[Scotzmen]

What game have YOU been playing? An atgm hit will take 1-4 boxes of health of a challenger depending on missile strength from the front, they have 10 boxes I think.

So HP of a unit is measured in bars? Like Tom Clancy's End war?